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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2005Can't decide - Nikon vs. Konica Minolta
I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot to a DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm AF-S DX f/3.5-4.5G lens) and the Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D, with a KM 28-100mm AF f/3.5-5.6 lens. My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. It's a little more expensive. I have no experience with Konica equipment, hence the reason for my post. I'm open to suggestions or points to consider. I'm no professional, but I have enjoyed using my 35mm SLR for the past 5 years (a 15 year old Yashica FX-3). I plan to use a new DSLR primarily for shooting my kids (with the camera, not with a gun) and perhaps a little outdoor/nature photography. What are your thoughts on how these two lenses compare? Any advice is appreciated. > I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital > point-and-shoot to a DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s > (with the 18-70mm AF-S DX f/3.5-4.5G lens) and the Konica Minolta > Maxxum 7D, with a KM 28-100mm AF f/3.5-5.6 lens. The Konica includes image stabilisation in the body, which may be attractive after what you have been used to on the Canon S1-IS. Don't Konica offer a lens with a wider angle than 28mm ( I assume that's 43mm equivalent). 43mm may be restricting for indoor photos of children. David >> I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital >> point-and-shoot to a DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Konica offer a lens with a wider angle than 28mm ( I assume that's 43mm > equivalent). 43mm may be restricting for indoor photos of children. Yes, 18-70mm 3.5-6.5DT. Afaik its the Kit-Lense of thhe 5D, and might be a better choice. >>I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital >>point-and-shoot to a DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Konica offer a lens with a wider angle than 28mm ( I assume that's 43mm > equivalent). 43mm may be restricting for indoor photos of children. Aside from the lovely 20mm f/2.8 K-M have two 17-35mm lenses that are both very good. One is very expensive, the other slightly slower and quite reasonable in price.  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot to a > DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm AF-S DX > f/3.5-4.5G lens) and the Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D, with a KM 28-100mm AF > f/3.5-5.6 lens. For one, the lens is better with the Nikon. Another, I believe the Nikon has more useful features. Lastly, I think Nikon has a better reputation and is doing better business. Clearly the Nikon lens has a wider low end. The zoom ratio on the 28-100 is a little high (more than 3x). Further, the Nikon lens has AF-S, which you will love! It is quite and fast. You can grab it and focus manually if you desire ... while in autofocus mode! The optics are very good. My comment about the zoom ratio above 3x may not really apply in the low focal lengths, but who can say [definitely the 18-70 has more than 3x as well]? > My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I > quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. It's > a little more expensive. I have no experience with Konica equipment, hence > the reason for my post. I am curious to see what "more" it has to offer. I can say I have been VERY happy with the D70. SignatureThomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 Spammers please contact me at renegade@veldy.net. >>My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I >>quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. It's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I am curious to see what "more" it has to offer. I can say I have been > VERY happy with the D70. I'm sure you have been. But the 7D is simply better all 'round. -Anti shake in-camera for all lenses. -Much better controls and control layout -Larger and higher density monitor -Better range of ISO speeds One thing I wish the 7D had that the D70 has, is 1/500 sync speed. A minor point, but a point. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >>>My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I >>>quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Anti shake in-camera for all lenses. Big deal, lots of photos get taken without and some of them are actually pretty good. > -Much better controls and control layout If that is the sort of layout you want, if not then it isn't. > -Larger and higher density monitor Good but not that important. > -Better range of ISO speeds The main ones are there and work well. > One thing I wish the 7D had that the D70 has, is 1/500 sync speed. A > minor point, but a point. Very minor, many only sync at lower speeds, 5D for example. > Cheers, > Alan >>>>My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I >>>>quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Big deal, lots of photos get taken without and some of them are actually > pretty good. Certainly a big deal and thanks for highlighting that. ;-) With Canon and Nikon to get this you have to buy the individual IS/VR lenses that have the facility. With Maxxum you get it with the camera for all the lenses you already have and will buy in the future. So yes, it is not only "Big" but a "good" deal too. So you can shoot at slower ISO's and longer shutter speeds. >>-Much better controls and control layout > > If that is the sort of layout you want, if not then it isn't. You have to use it to understand it. You literally forget that there are menus... you simply don't need them for all but a few special situations. (BTW: most any review in most any magazine points out the superior Minolta control layout ... and this goes back to models like the 800i, Maxxum 9 and Maxxum 7 to name a few). >>-Larger and higher density monitor > > Good but not that important. Not according to a few friends of mine who use D70/D70s and flipped when they saw my monitor. >>-Better range of ISO speeds > > The main ones are there and work well. Until you want shallower DOF (and forgot the ND) or a high speed low light shot (and don't care about the noise). >>One thing I wish the 7D had that the D70 has, is 1/500 sync speed. A >>minor point, but a point. > > Very minor, many only sync at lower speeds, 5D for example. I meant minor for the OP. Not minor for me. For studio shooting with studio flash, having the highest possible sync speed is important for absolutely crisp shots and for reducing the exposure of high ambient light where not needed in the image (but needed for crisp manual focusing). MF cameras such as Hasselblads's sync at 1/500 and others (some Pentax lenses, IIRC) at 1/1000. It is a minor point to most SLR shooters but an important point to me as I do do a lot of studio shots. And no, HSS does not at all cut it. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > You have to use it to understand it. You literally forget that there > are menus... you simply don't need them for all but a few special > situations. (BTW: most any review in most any magazine points out the > superior Minolta control layout ... and this goes back to models like > the 800i, Maxxum 9 and Maxxum 7 to name a few). I had a brief chance to use one of the Minolta DSLRs. It feels like an old-school camera that just happens to be digital. Kind of weird (in a good way). Canons feel like computer peripherals to me. Low-end Nikons (like the D70) are somewhere in between. Pro Nikon bodies are *almost* as "camera-like" as the Minolta, but not quite; still too many "press this while turning this other thing" functions, which isn't necessarily bad, but it's not quite as zen, or something. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com >>>>>My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I >>>>>quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Certainly a big deal and thanks for highlighting that. ;-) LOL , luckily you can turn it off though. > With Canon and Nikon to get this you have to buy the individual IS/VR > lenses that have the facility. With Maxxum you get it with the camera for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > control layout ... and this goes back to models like the 800i, Maxxum 9 > and Maxxum 7 to name a few). His father in law will likely not appreciate it nor will the OP. >>>-Larger and higher density monitor >> >> Good but not that important. > > Not according to a few friends of mine who use D70/D70s and flipped when > they saw my monitor. Yes well, hardly something to get flippy about. My 2" hi res screen is very good also, still only give it a good. >>>-Better range of ISO speeds >> >> The main ones are there and work well. > > Until you want shallower DOF (and forgot the ND) or a high speed low light > shot (and don't care about the noise). This is marginal at best. You must change your mind a lot. The D70s goes up to 3200 anyway. And I never forget the ND. >>>One thing I wish the 7D had that the D70 has, is 1/500 sync speed. A >>>minor point, but a point. >> >> Very minor, many only sync at lower speeds, 5D for example. > > I meant minor for the OP. Not minor for me. I am sure you did. > For studio shooting with studio flash, having the highest possible sync > speed is important for absolutely crisp shots and for reducing the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > point to most SLR shooters but an important point to me as I do do a lot > of studio shots. And no, HSS does not at all cut it. Not sure the OP actually has a studio yet?? Anyway 500th is still good enough I think. > Cheers, > Alan >>>>>>My father-in-law recently bought a D70s. I have used it a little, and I >>>>>>quite like it. But from what I've read, the 7D seems to be more camera. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > This is marginal at best. You must change your mind a lot. The D70s goes up > to 3200 anyway. And I never forget the ND. The KM 7D also provides ISO up to 3200 >>>>One thing I wish the 7D had that the D70 has, is 1/500 sync speed. A >>>>minor point, but a point. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>Cheers, >>Alan Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > The KM 7D also provides ISO up to 3200 Yes but I am sure not spending that much on a 6 MP camera that has noise issues. >>The KM 7D also provides ISO up to 3200 > > Yes but I am sure not spending that much on a 6 MP camera that has noise > issues. What? Less noise than the D70 is a problem? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/konicaminolta7d/Samples/ISO/lumi-graph.gif Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. On 9/6/05 5:16 AM, in article dfk1aj$c1r$1@inews.gazeta.pl, "Alan Browne" wrote: >>> The KM 7D also provides ISO up to 3200 >> >> Yes but I am sure not spending that much on a 6 MP camera that has noise >> issues. > > What? Less noise than the D70 is a problem? Speaking as a Nikon D70s owner who has already taken hundreds of pictures, I can suggest to all of you that the "noise" issue is bogus. My son uses a Canon D20. Both cameras take incredibly good pictures under all lighting conditions....no matter what the technowonks keep saying.... PC > On 9/6/05 5:16 AM, in article dfk1aj$c1r$1@inews.gazeta.pl, "Alan Browne" > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Canon D20. Both cameras take incredibly good pictures under all lighting > conditions....no matter what the technowonks keep saying.... Yes, thanks P, we know that, we were having a bit of a joke. Only the Oly E300 has this problem. On 9/6/05 11:30 PM, in article >> On 9/6/05 5:16 AM, in article dfk1aj$c1r$1@inews.gazeta.pl, "Alan Browne" >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Yes, thanks P, we know that, we were having a bit of a joke. Only the Oly > E300 has this problem. Enjoy your joke - but it remains true that the "issue" of noise is mostly irrelevant....:) PC >>>>> Yes but I am sure not spending that much on a 6 MP camera that has >>>>> noise [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > PC You are indeed correct but all the Canonites will continue to tell you that all Canons are sooooooooooooo much better than every other camera, I personally get a bit sick of it so "take the piss" so to speak occasionally. Cheers. Pete On 9/8/05 1:01 AM, in article >>>>>> Yes but I am sure not spending that much on a 6 MP camera that has >>>>>> noise [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > all Canons are sooooooooooooo much better than every other camera, I > personally get a bit sick of it so "take the piss" so to speak occasionally. I "hear" that....:) I had always hoped that this forum would provide a venue where interested users could share useful information and provide insight. Instead, it seems to be a place where a gang of puerile wonks come to parade their "superior" knowledge and to ask a never-ending series of incredibly stupid questions. Add to that the silly arguments about whose artistic abilities are better than whose and one grows weary of reading the verbal excreta of idiots...... The Canonites are simply engaged in blinding repeating the nonsense they collect and circulate among themselves. They typify the modern definition of "validation", i.e., one lies and the other swears to it. Then two other apply the same logic to the opposing view. Mindless, stupid and totally unproductive. As I said earlier, my son has a Canon D20 and I have a Nikon D70s. If reality is your guide, none of the other cameras currently being offered that are "comparable", are worthy of mention in a sane discussion of "entry level" DSLRs...! Every expert will attest to the fact that those two cameras are leading the pack by a wide margin. As I also said, both the Canon and the Nikon take incredibly good pictures - no matter what standard ISO is used. Before I bought, I compared 14x20 prints made from both cameras - nobody without a microscope who counted pixels could have told the difference, Both were of exceptional quality, sharpness and color balance. The truth is that the choice is largely one of personal preference. My son likes the "feel" of his Canon and while he takes good pictures with my Nikon, he PREFERS his Canon. Similarly I like the "feel" of my Nikon better although I've taken some great pictures with his Canon. Given the above, it's a "Ford" or "Chevrolet" argument and while the discussion of differences and why one person prefers one over the other can be interesting, rational folks don't dive over the cliff like Canonites nor remain silent as do most Nikonites. That fact alone gives one a clue as to who selects which camera and why.....:) Maybe the nature of this venue will change and the moronic technowonks will go back to the Planet Zog from whence they came and a rational discussion will yet ensue.... We can always hope......:) PC > On 9/8/05 1:01 AM, in article > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > We can always hope......:) PC, Firstly, welcome to the world of unmoderatered newsgroups, sure there are plenty of idiots here, bit of filtering or ignoring will fix that. What you say is correct, they all take great photos, the main difference is in the handling. Personally I have neither Canon or Nikon but like some of both (not the 300D or the 350D mind you although they certainly take perfectly good photos). I am certainly driven by what I can afford as a father of four and am really happy that my D-SLR will use pretty much any lens ever made with a suitable adapter and will meter properly and take perfectly good/great/fantastic shots, perhaps I cannot blow the shots up to the size of a bus but then again I don't need to. Cheers. Pete D > I had always hoped that this forum would provide a venue where interested > users could share useful information and provide insight. Instead, it seems It is up to the various contributors to supply higher signal than noise, and to ignore what they consider noise. Cheers, Alan. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. On 9/8/05 4:07 PM, in article dfqg8c$rq3$1@inews.gazeta.pl, "Alan Browne" wrote: >> I had always hoped that this forum would provide a venue where interested >> users could share useful information and provide insight. Instead, it seems > > It is up to the various contributors to supply higher signal than noise, > and to ignore what they consider noise. I agree and have tried to do as you suggest - but I see nothing wrong with speaking up when the idiots get too vocal......:) Letting the children play without supervision is always a mistake - when the children (of whatever age) get out of control, the grownups need to act......:) PC > Speaking as a Nikon D70s owner who has already taken hundreds of pictures, I > can suggest to all of you that the "noise" issue is bogus. My son uses a > Canon D20. Both cameras take incredibly good pictures under all lighting > conditions....no matter what the technowonks keep saying.... The point wasn't to state categorically that noise is or is not an issue; simply that the statement that Pete D put up was wrong (whether meant truly or in jest). Noise is an issue in some cases, though in the "sweet spots" that most people tend to shoot (lots of light, comfortable ISO setting, not very deep graduated shaddows, small prints (10 x 8)), then it is a non-issue. For some photos I did in a bar (dimly lit stage) with available light with fast glass, there was no usable speed/ISO setting that didn't result in high noise even in a small (5x7) print. A friend, shooting similar quality glass and a 20D fared no better, FWIW. Cheers, Alan. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. On 9/8/05 2:15 PM, in article dfq9ma$7gs$1@inews.gazeta.pl, "Alan Browne" wrote: >> Speaking as a Nikon D70s owner who has already taken hundreds of pictures, I >> can suggest to all of you that the "noise" issue is bogus. My son uses a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > issue; simply that the statement that Pete D put up was wrong (whether > meant truly or in jest). With specific reference to one statement by one person, you are correct. However, my contention was/is that the incessant petty sniping about ISO from so many has grown tedious - not to mention irrelevant if one wishes to take good pictures.... > Noise is an issue in some cases, though in the "sweet spots" that most > people tend to shoot (lots of light, comfortable ISO setting, not very > deep graduated shaddows, small prints (10 x 8)), then it is a non-issue. I would suggest that noise is an issue in a very tiny majority of cases where one wishes to take photos where there is virtually no light. Under normal conditions or using flash, it's irrelevant..... > For some photos I did in a bar (dimly lit stage) with available light > with fast glass, there was no usable speed/ISO setting that didn't > result in high noise even in a small (5x7) print. A friend, shooting > similar quality glass and a 20D fared no better, FWIW. I agree, but your example supports my view. The Canonites will insist that the fact that the 20D can use ISO 100 while the Nikon D70/D70s can only use ISO 200 indicates an IMMENSE superiority for the Canon. In fact, it's an irrelevancy. When the light is bad, OTOH, quality deteriorates no matter what ISO your camera can utilize or what medium you use. Film has the same problem - use higher ISO film and graininess (noise) increases. Again, so what? Why do some have to beat that dead horse endlessly?.....:) As you've earlier stated, quite clearly and intelligently, your problem would/could be solved by getting more light into the camera whether by increasing available lighting or using a lens with a larger aperture. In any event, ISO settings aren't relevant except in a minor way.....:) PC Morgan, Many answers sent will be biased by those who think the camera THEY bought for THEMSELVES is the only one suitable for everyone else to buy, and they will denigrate the other brands!!! Figure out which features matter to YOU. Figure out which camera handles best in YOUR HANDS. Listen to 'features argument' not about Brand, which will be biased (no one likes to look stupid so they have to justify what they have already purchased)!!! The Nikon lens goes wider angle (equivalent to 27mm wide angle on 35mm film), but the Minolta goes to longer telephoto (about 150mm on 35mm film). So which is more important TO YOU? I like to shoot interiors when I travel to Europe (fabulous churches, castles and museums) so I would choose the one with a wider lens as standard. But maybe you need to shoot soccer photos of your son/daughter with a longer lens like the Minolta has! But don't use that as the sole selection criteria, since you can always get additional lenses in the focal lengths you need! As for relative ease of use, the DSLRs are all so automated that they can serve as expensive point-and-shoots, so don't let that deter you from the D70...it can be used similarly to the Minolta in auto-everything mode! Consider what type of battery each takes (proprietary form factor or generic AA, etc.) Consider the type of memory each camera takes (commonly found CF), or slightly more difficult to find or more expensive other package) Consider how easy is it for you to find some accessories for that camera in local stores, where you can go to try things out, and consider how readily you can buy accessory items on the web when you local store does not stock them. IMHOP the differences between cameras is a wash. Minolta and Nikon each have their advantages. I have a D70 because I have used Nikons for years and have a big investment in Nikon lenses. I heartily endorse the D70, particularly if you want to use the RAW format in order to see what a dSLR can really accomplish. If you want to stay with JPEG you may be happier with a camera that has a fixed lens, is smaller and easier to handle. Many are quite sophisticated and some (this will incite flame wars) are even superior, because they are more usable by the individual consumer, to dSLRs if you are satisfied with JPEG images. > I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot > to a DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm > AF-S DX f/3.5-4.5G lens) and the Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D, with a KM > 28-100mm AF f/3.5-5.6 lens. Do yourself a favor... go to a good camera store and see how nicely an inexpensive Pentax DSLR is at home in your hands :^) SignatureAnti-Spam address: my last name at his dot com Charles Gillen -- Reston, Virginia, USA > I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot to a > DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm AF-S DX [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Any advice is appreciated. With the 7D you get anti-shake and a larger monitor. Not to mention a very complete set of controls on the body of the camera that all but obviate menu diving. The 17-35 f/var from K-M is very nice; not sure about the 28-100, but that's a pretty decent range for general photography. The 18-70 from Nikon is an interesting range of FL's as well. If you think you'll be doing more wide angle shots, that's a good choice. Cheers, Alan. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. Thanks to all who commented. Your input was valuable. After much deliberation and a trip to a local camera store (I was able to handle both cameras for a few minutes each) I finally made my pick. It was a close race, but I finally chose the D70s. My final decision was mostly based on the fact that I've heard nothing but praise for the Nikon's 18-70mm lens. Having not been able to find much info on the KM lens, I was a little uneasy. The camera store I visited did not have the 18-100 in stock, so I couldn't see it. Of the 4 KM lenses they had, none were what I would consider "reasonably priced." So, given the wide selection of new and used lenses available for the Nikon (staggering compared to KM lense choice and availbility), I figured I would have a much easier time to locate additional lenses at a reasonable price when the time comes. Thanks again. > I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot to > a DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm AF-S [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Any advice is appreciated. >I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot to a >DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm AF-S DX >f/3.5-4.5G lens) and the Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D, with a KM 28-100mm AF >f/3.5-5.6 lens. Why not go with the leader in DLSR's and get a Canon? A year ago I considered the D70 (Had owned Nikon film gear ) and decide that Canon had the best system now and for the future. ************************************************************* "I believe that all government is evil, in that all government must necessarily make war upon liberty... From "Mencken's Creed" H.L. Mencken (1880 -1956) > I'm about to make the jump from my Canon S1-IS digital point-and-shoot to a > DSLR model, but I'm torn between the Nikon D70s (with the 18-70mm AF-S DX [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Any advice is appreciated. Konica-Minolta is not doing well, and may exit the digital SLR business. If you go with Canon or Nikon, you'll be assured of a wide variety of lenses and accessories, as well as an upgrade path. The D70s is an excellent choice. > Konica-Minolta is not doing well, and may exit the digital SLR business. > If you go with Canon or Nikon, you'll be assured of a wide variety of > lenses and accessories, as well as an upgrade path. The D70s is an > excellent choice. That line is getting a bit old. There are no signs othere than petty attacks like that above that K-M are on an exit path ... esp. while releasing new lenses and a DSLR ( 5D ). For most shooters, K-M have an exemplary line of glass. The choices of Canon and Nikon are, of course, not bad. But it would be harmful to everyone if the adice to buy there only were heeded. Cheers, Alan. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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