A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new thing is
focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable DSLRs are
cutting corners with their screens/prisms, so that a demand for
brighter-more highly magnified screens are now in demand. I know this is
true of the D70 I use. I don't believe Bill himself is making these
screens, however, I know he's been performing his screen enhancements for an
individual who is. For more info, feel free to contact Bill.
www.mattclara.com/maxwell

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Siddhartha Jain - 29 Aug 2005 18:24 GMT
> A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new thing is
> focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable DSLRs are
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> screens, however, I know he's been performing his screen enhancements for an
> individual who is. For more info, feel free to contact Bill.
Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
- Siddhartha
Alan Bremner - 29 Aug 2005 19:02 GMT
>Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
>magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
I want my microprisms back! <g>
Al

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John A. Stovall - 29 Aug 2005 23:59 GMT
>>Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
>>magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
>
>I want my microprisms back! <g>
You can have them back:
http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/
I have one in my 20D and it's outstanding...
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Alan Bremner - 31 Aug 2005 00:31 GMT
>>I want my microprisms back! <g>
>You can have them back:
>
>http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/
Thanks a lot, John. I'll certainly investigate this for my 350D.
Al

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Toa - 29 Aug 2005 20:25 GMT
> Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
> magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
> - Siddhartha
I disagree. That would compromise battery power. On my 7D the screen is
only available for text data or for replay of taken images. It can't be
used for framing your shot like P&S cameras can.
I'm very happy with that approach
Toa
John Bean - 29 Aug 2005 22:12 GMT
>> Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
>> magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
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>only available for text data or for replay of taken images. It can't be
>used for framing your shot like P&S cameras can.
Siddhartha was talking about the focus screen not the toy
LCD on the back ;-)
And I agree - on a camera with an APS-C sensor the viefinder
magnification needs to be at least 1x, preferably more, and
it should be possible to produce a screen with focus aids
and 2-3 stops brighter than the standard plain AF screen.

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Toa - 30 Aug 2005 00:29 GMT
> Siddhartha was talking about the focus screen not the toy
> LCD on the back ;-)
> John Bean
Understood, thanks
Toa
Matt Clara - 29 Aug 2005 22:20 GMT
>> Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
>> magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
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>
> Toa
The image created by the lens hits the mirror and is deflected up into a
focus screen, which is what you're actually looking at when you look through
an slr. You focus the image on the screen.

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Beach Bum - 29 Aug 2005 23:50 GMT
> Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
> magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
I don't think such a sacrifice is required just to get a good manual
focusing screen. They should include all of the above IMHO.
I'm strongly considering purchasing one of the higher end screens from this
place:
http://www.keoptics.com/

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John A. Stovall - 30 Aug 2005 00:01 GMT
>> Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
>> magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
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>place:
>http://www.keoptics.com/
I have one in my 20D and it's excellent.
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Beach Bum - 30 Aug 2005 02:39 GMT
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >I'm strongly considering purchasing one of the higher end screens from this
> >place:
> >http://www.keoptics.com/
>
> I have one in my 20D and it's excellent.
Thanks for the feedback, John. I read that it throws off the in-camera
exposure meter a little. What's your take on that? Which version did you
buy?

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John A. Stovall - 30 Aug 2005 12:56 GMT
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>exposure meter a little. What's your take on that? Which version did you
>buy?
I just compensate about a 1/3 of a stop. If I forget (only use manual
mode) it's easily fixed in Photoshop's ACR.
I got the original because the Plus wasn't available last April.
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Little Green Eyed Dragon - 30 Aug 2005 00:46 GMT
> Take away the AF and AE electronics and spend the money on a bright and
> magnified screen. Thats what I would say to dSLR manufacturers.
>
> - Siddhartha
Your nuts.

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Matt Clara - 29 Aug 2005 19:26 GMT
> A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new thing is
> focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable DSLRs are
> cutting corners with their screens/prisms, so that a demand for
> brighter-more highly magnified screens are now in demand.
Yes, that's it, the demand is in demand...damn. You know what I mean, I
hope!

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Mike Coon - 29 Aug 2005 23:16 GMT
> A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new
> thing is focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable
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> www.mattclara.com/maxwell
I was interested in this idea until I remembered that my EOS AF lenses have
such a short focus travel that I find the process of rotating them
(especially if also the zoom adjustment) to find focus is as much of a
limitation at the screen. So I vote for a vernier focus adjustment too.
Mike.

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RichA - 29 Aug 2005 23:29 GMT
>A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new thing is
>focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable DSLRs are
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>
>www.mattclara.com/maxwell
Focusing screens won't make up for substandard prism materials,
poor reflective surfaces of mirrors, mirrors and prisms that are
TOO small for the application.
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Matt Clara - 30 Aug 2005 00:09 GMT
>>A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new thing is
>>focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable DSLRs are
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> TOO small for the application.
> -Rich
If they're brighter, they're brighter, so it does help make up for it.

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John A. Stovall - 30 Aug 2005 00:00 GMT
>A recent conversation with Bill Maxwell reveals that the hot new thing is
>focusing screens for DSLRs. Apparently the more affordable DSLRs are
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>
>www.mattclara.com/maxwell
Another source for them.
http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/
I have one in my 20D and it's outstanding.
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