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Rox-off - 23 Aug 2005 12:40 GMT
http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm

This happened on Saturday just a few clicks up the coast from me. A
light aircraft crashed into this house. Miraculously none of the
passengers was killed (or the pilot). The owner of the house was playing
bowls.

The passengers were German tourists who were looking for an aerial view
of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
closer look than they expected!

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David Littlewood - 23 Aug 2005 12:49 GMT
>http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
>closer look than they expected!

As they used to say, any landing you walk away from is a good one.

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The Dave© - 23 Aug 2005 14:29 GMT
> As they used to say, any landing you walk
> away from is a good one.

Reminds me of when I see news stories about mountain climbers getting
stranded in blizzards and getting rescued.  They always mention that the
climbers are "in good spirits".  Well, duh!, of course they're in good
spirits... they're alive.  They can now see their families again and live to
climb another day.
columbotrek - 23 Aug 2005 17:04 GMT
Yes, but after a great landing you are able to use the plane again.

> As they used to say, any landing you walk away from is a good one.
>
> David
Mark² - 23 Aug 2005 19:27 GMT
> Yes, but after a great landing you are able to use the plane again.
>
>> As they used to say, any landing you walk away from is a good one.
>>
>> David

Maybe it was one of those new, "single use" planes...
William Graham - 23 Aug 2005 21:39 GMT
>> Yes, but after a great landing you are able to use the plane again.
>>
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>
> Maybe it was one of those new, "single use" planes...

Yeah....There's no gas cap, but they come with one full tank.....
JMW - 24 Aug 2005 14:41 GMT
>>Yes, but after a great landing you are able to use the plane again.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Maybe it was one of those new, "single use" planes...

Great seguay into Kodak - and the subject of this forum...
Rox-off - 23 Aug 2005 14:49 GMT
In article <MPG.1d7537c6b3d3bd28989695@news.mweb.co.za>,

The story continues...

http://tinyurl.com/8nv48

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Mark² - 23 Aug 2005 19:26 GMT
> In article <MPG.1d7537c6b3d3bd28989695@news.mweb.co.za>,
>
> The story continues...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8nv48

No image on that page.
-Come on, Dallas!
Submit a photo to that site!
:)
Peter Chant - 23 Aug 2005 19:36 GMT
> The story continues...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8nv48

Note at the bottom of the page:

South Africa
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ian lincoln - 23 Aug 2005 22:03 GMT
> In article <MPG.1d7537c6b3d3bd28989695@news.mweb.co.za>,
>
> The story continues...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8nv48

authorities could continue their investigations as to why the plane crashed
into pensioner Alwyn Field's home in Danville Avenue.

Thats easy he probably left his landing light on.
Bandicoot - 27 Aug 2005 15:34 GMT
> authorities could continue their investigations as to why the
> plane crashed into pensioner Alwyn Field's home in
> Danville Avenue.
>
> Thats easy he probably left his landing light on.

I'm guessing the pilot just saw it said "Alwyn Field" and misunderstood...

Peter
Ken Tough - 23 Aug 2005 17:55 GMT
>The passengers were German tourists who were looking for an aerial view
>of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
>closer look than they expected!

Maybe they spotted a free deck chair.

Where was it, Umhlanga?

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Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 06:33 GMT
> >The passengers were German tourists who were looking for an aerial view
> >of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
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>
> Where was it, Umhlanga?

Close. Danville Avenue is in Durban North (or Glenashley, to be
precise). The Virginia Airport is just a few kilometers away from where
this happened.

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Mark² - 23 Aug 2005 19:25 GMT
> http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
> closer look than they expected!

If I were you, I would have been snapping photos for submission to your
local paper/web news.
Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 06:34 GMT
> > http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> If I were you, I would have been snapping photos for submission to your
> local paper/web news.

The newspaper had plenty of photos - the online edition is very frugal
with photos though.

However, if you were me, you would be sitting in the office fielding
enquiries from would-be customers.

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Mark² - 24 Aug 2005 06:50 GMT
In article <OSJOe.8448$Us5.1665@fed1read02>, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest
even number here)@cox..net> says...

> > http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> If I were you, I would have been snapping photos for submission to your
> local paper/web news.

The newspaper had plenty of photos - the online edition is very frugal
with photos though.

However, if you were me, you would be sitting in the office fielding
enquiries from would-be customers.
-----------------------------------

Customers?  That's a good thing I guess...
Sitting in an office?
Not so good...

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Brian Baird - 23 Aug 2005 21:50 GMT
> http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
> closer look than they expected!

But how is it ARTISTIC Dallas?  Especially with the DATE STAMP in the
lower corner.

(Sorry, just giving some back)

That is pretty nutty, tho.  I've been saying it since the Battle of
Britain - Germans and airplanes just don't mix.
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Mike Warren - 24 Aug 2005 00:29 GMT
> That is pretty nutty, tho.  I've been saying it since the Battle of
> Britain - Germans and airplanes just don't mix.

You're older than I thought.

-Mike
Brian Baird - 24 Aug 2005 02:10 GMT
> > That is pretty nutty, tho.  I've been saying it since the Battle of
> > Britain - Germans and airplanes just don't mix.
>
> You're older than I thought.
>
> -Mike

Don't get me started on the 1890s... decade of sin, that was!
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William Graham - 24 Aug 2005 02:44 GMT
>> http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>>
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> That is pretty nutty, tho.  I've been saying it since the Battle of
> Britain - Germans and airplanes just don't mix.

I was going to scoff at this, and I Googled the Red Baron, but then I came
upon this:
   Manfred von Richthofen was a sportsman and a hunter. By his own
admission he was not a great pilot. In his  book he expressed amusement at
the fact that an opponent he brought down made a perfect landing whilst his
attempt at the same feat, at the same time, was disastrous.
Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 06:36 GMT
> But how is it ARTISTIC Dallas?  Especially with the DATE STAMP in the
> lower corner.
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> That is pretty nutty, tho.  I've been saying it since the Battle of
> Britain - Germans and airplanes just don't mix.

Not my photograph. It was sent to me by somebody who lives nearby.

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Brian Baird - 24 Aug 2005 07:11 GMT
> > But how is it ARTISTIC Dallas?  Especially with the DATE STAMP in the
> > lower corner.
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>
> Not my photograph. It was sent to me by somebody who lives nearby.

But if it was your photograph, oh, the delicious irony!

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Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 09:40 GMT
> > > But how is it ARTISTIC Dallas?  Especially with the DATE STAMP in the
> > > lower corner.
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>
> But if it was your photograph, oh, the delicious irony!

You'd like that, wouldn't you?

I've taken loads of crap photos, but the difference is I don't make them
public.

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Mark² - 24 Aug 2005 10:15 GMT
>> > > But how is it ARTISTIC Dallas?  Especially with the DATE STAMP in the
>> > > lower corner.
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> I've taken loads of crap photos, but the difference is I don't make them
> public.

Smart man!
That's the dirty little secret behind even the greatest photogs...
-That they have piles and piles of rejects nobody knows about.
The result is...everyone assumes they shoot only gems!
Not so.  Not by a long, long road.

It helps me to remind myself of this from time to time.
:)
Rox-off - 25 Aug 2005 06:29 GMT
> Smart man!
> That's the dirty little secret behind even the greatest photogs...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It helps me to remind myself of this from time to time.
> :)

I don't think it's a secret in any way. Any photographer who thinks that
everything he shoots is somehow wonderful will surely bump his head.
Even musicians will tell you that somedays they play like crap.

I think personal websites and galleries should be a display of your best
work. Unfortunately most of my best work is not on my site, since it is
all done with slides. However, my scanner should be here in a few days
so I hope to rectify that soon!

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William Graham - 25 Aug 2005 06:51 GMT
In article <2VWOe.8554$Us5.1058@fed1read02>, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest
even number here)@cox..net> says...

> Smart man!
> That's the dirty little secret behind even the greatest photogs...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It helps me to remind myself of this from time to time.
> :)

I don't think it's a secret in any way. Any photographer who thinks that
everything he shoots is somehow wonderful will surely bump his head.
Even musicians will tell you that somedays they play like crap.

I think personal websites and galleries should be a display of your best
work. Unfortunately most of my best work is not on my site, since it is
all done with slides. However, my scanner should be here in a few days
so I hope to rectify that soon!

Yes....The problem is simple to solve. I only intend to scan my best slides
into my computer....The rest will lie buried in a box in my attic for a
hundred years......As a matter of fact, since scanning them isn't a
destructive process, they will ALL lie buried in a box in my attic for a
hundred years......
Mark² - 25 Aug 2005 08:07 GMT
>"Rox-off" <roxy@empirerods.com> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.1d7783c1452ba84d9896a0@news.mweb.co.za...
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>everything he shoots is somehow wonderful will surely bump his head.
>Even musicians will tell you that somedays they play like crap.

I'm not saying the photogs think they take only gems...  I'm saying that
many non-photogs tend to not realize jsut how many photos taken by the great
photogs are crap.  -Because they see only the goods, they assume they're all
pretty good.

This isn't exclusive to photography at all.
When we're with company, we put on our better behavior.
As a reult, our marriages tend to look better than they are to our friends,
and our house seems cleaner (since we clean the house for company, etc.).
The result is that people have a natural tendency to assume that others have
some things figured out much better than they themselves do.  Sometimes they
really DO...but all too often people tend to think they must be crappy at
this or that, when, if they could see the "non-company house" or the
"non-company" version of their friend's marriage...they wouldn't feel so
inferior.  :)

If you look for this tendency, you'll identify it in just about all
fields/homes/ settings/people to a certain extent.

>I think personal websites and galleries should be a display of your best
>work.

If you're trying to sell something, yes.
Or if you want people to come back to your site, yes.

>Unfortunately most of my best work is not on my site, since it is
>all done with slides. However, my scanner should be here in a few days
>so I hope to rectify that soon!
Brian Baird - 24 Aug 2005 15:27 GMT
> > But if it was your photograph, oh, the delicious irony!
>
> You'd like that, wouldn't you?
>
> I've taken loads of crap photos, but the difference is I don't make them
> public.

Aren't you special.

I was ribbing you, you sour, bitter man!  Get a sense of humor!
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Rox-off - 25 Aug 2005 06:26 GMT
> > > But if it was your photograph, oh, the delicious irony!
> >
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>
> I was ribbing you, you sour, bitter man!  Get a sense of humor!

So was I, you obnoxious dummy.

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Mark² - 25 Aug 2005 08:08 GMT
>> > > But if it was your photograph, oh, the delicious irony!
>> >
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>
> So was I, you obnoxious dummy.

Hey!  Watch your language, pal!
How DARE you use a word like, "dummy" when children might be reading!
:)
Brian Baird - 25 Aug 2005 19:19 GMT
> > I was ribbing you, you sour, bitter man!  Get a sense of humor!

> So was I, you obnoxious dummy.

Were you, you libidinous rankard?!

Actually, I just made up rankard.  What should we have it mean?
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Rox-off - 26 Aug 2005 06:17 GMT
> > > I was ribbing you, you sour, bitter man!  Get a sense of humor!
>  
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>
> Actually, I just made up rankard.  What should we have it mean?

One who enjoys the work of Rankin?

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Brian Baird - 26 Aug 2005 10:34 GMT
> > Actually, I just made up rankard.  What should we have it mean?
>  
> One who enjoys the work of Rankin?

Done and done!
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David Littlewood - 24 Aug 2005 17:01 GMT
>> > > But how is it ARTISTIC Dallas?  Especially with the DATE STAMP in the
>> > > lower corner.
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>I've taken loads of crap photos, but the difference is I don't make them
>public.

Or, to paraphrase a rather sexist remark a colleague of mine is fond of
making: I've never taken a crap photo, but I've sure got home with a
lot.

David
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John Fryatt - 23 Aug 2005 22:33 GMT
> http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>
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> of Durban before they flew back to Germany on Friday. I guess they got a
> closer look than they expected!

How far is a 'click'?
Brian Baird - 23 Aug 2005 22:36 GMT
> > http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
> >
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>
> How far is a 'click'?

I think he means 'klick' which is slang for "kilometer."
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Jer - 24 Aug 2005 01:24 GMT
>>>http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>>>
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>
> I think he means 'klick' which is slang for "kilometer."

True, and old army jeep odometers included a "klicker" mechanism to
audibly inform the driver of distance traveled.

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Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 06:37 GMT
> > http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> How far is a 'click'?

One kilometer.

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Mark² - 24 Aug 2005 06:51 GMT
>> > http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>> >
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>
> One kilometer.

Hmm.
That's the 6th answer version now...
???

It sounds like that term is one of those loose ones, sort of like a "bunch"
or a "few."
??
Brian Baird - 24 Aug 2005 07:11 GMT
> > One kilometer.
>
> Hmm.
> That's the 6th answer version now...
> ???

I SAID IT WAS ONE KILOMETER.

DOESN'T ANYONE LISTEN!

ARRHT%JS%J%$#~

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Mark² - 24 Aug 2005 07:15 GMT
>> > One kilometer.
>>
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>
> ARRHT%JS%J%$#~

Ya, but now we've got:
-.62 lilometer...
-Some funny click thing attached to a Jeep...
-A click that a gun sight makes...on both artillary and a rifle...
-and more!

So stick that in your &^%#%$#$*&$!!

:)
Brian Baird - 24 Aug 2005 07:20 GMT
> Ya, but now we've got:
> -.62 lilometer...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> So stick that in your &^%#%$#$*&$!!

I'll stick your #@$(^(@&W in a % (&Y#(&Y#@ you ($ ^(&^@(~!

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Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 09:45 GMT
> Ya, but now we've got:
> -.62 lilometer...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> So stick that in your &^%#%$#$*&$!!

With all those "Ya's" you say, you'll fit right in here in SA. It's
probably the most commonly used colloquialism in this country.

But, Rich did say 0.62 of a mile, which is one kilometer. And the jeep
probably counts them as it goes along the way.

Here we call a "click" a kilometer. Or something you do with a mouse.

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Mark² - 24 Aug 2005 10:18 GMT
>"Rox-off" <roxydurban@empirerods.com> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.1d76601c82d70a9198969d@news.mweb.co.za...
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>With all those "Ya's" you say, you'll fit right in here in SA. It's
>probably the most commonly used colloquialism in this country.

Ya?
You don't say...

I used to have an afro...does that count?
Rox-off - 24 Aug 2005 14:07 GMT
> Ya?
> You don't say...
>
> I used to have an afro...does that count?

Only if you want to learn how to speak Zulu, or Xhosa, or one of those
languages.

We say "Ya" a lot, but it is a throw-back from the Afrikaans, Dutch or
German "Ja". Nothing to do with traditional Africans...

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ian lincoln - 24 Aug 2005 18:02 GMT
"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message > I
used to have an afro...does that count?

what was his name?
Mark² - 25 Aug 2005 01:14 GMT
> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message > I
> used to have an afro...does that count?
>
> what was his name?

"The Fuzz"
Jer - 24 Aug 2005 15:14 GMT
>>Ya, but now we've got:
>>-.62 lilometer...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> But, Rich did say 0.62 of a mile, which is one kilometer. And the jeep
> probably counts them as it goes along the way.

U.S. Army jeeps were built stateside with imperial speedometers and
odometers.  The metric sounder was an add-on to allow rank-n-file
personnel to use metric codings from European maps.  This sounder was
attached to the dash just below the steering column and was driven with
the same drive cable between the dash guage and left front wheel.  The
trick to using the early models effectively was to avoid losing the
counting fingers.  A later model offered a two-digit odometer inside a
squinchy little window, but considering the constant exposure to the
elements, they quickly acquired a rusted patina, hence the term squinchy.

Ya, I used the requisite word "exposure".  :)

> Here we call a "click" a kilometer. Or something you do with a mouse.

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William Graham - 24 Aug 2005 07:20 GMT
>>> > http://www.dallasdahms.com/Plane.htm
>>> >
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> "bunch" or a "few."
> ??

Yeah.....I think it comes from the sound that an adjustment wheel makes as
it goes through the detents that keep it from wandering when unattended.
Also the steps of an old fashioned mechanical odometer....So, it can mean
different things to different disciplines......
 
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