Hi All.
I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
and shutter speed easy while in the "P" mode. My question relates to how
long those settings stay in effect, before the camera automatically selects
it for me. It seems like it is in effect for as long as the settings are
displayed on the LCD, about 2 or three secs of no activity (dial turning).
After that, pressing the shutter half way down the camera picks the
settings. Is there a way to make the override settings stay in effect for a
little bit longer? I may be overlooking some basic setting.
Thanks!
dylan - 20 Aug 2005 14:41 GMT
> Hi All.
> I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
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>
> Thanks!
Assuming it's the same as my 10D, you are doing a 'program shift' ie
increase in speed and decrease in aperture or visa versa.
This will not hold the values of speed and aperture if the lighting
conditions change, ie you move the camera, but the shift you applied will
hold until the display in the viewfinder timesout or you take a picture.
When you repress the shutter half way the shift will not present.
Hope this makes sense.
Read Shifting the program in the section on Program AE in the handbook.
Robbie - 20 Aug 2005 14:49 GMT
Thanks for pointing that out. I did not realize that was "program shift". I
looked that up in the manual and found the explanation.
Thanks again!
> > Hi All.
> > I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
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> Read Shifting the program in the section on Program AE in the handbook.
Alan Browne - 20 Aug 2005 14:45 GMT
> Hi All.
> I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
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> settings. Is there a way to make the override settings stay in effect for a
> little bit longer? I may be overlooking some basic setting.
Why don't you just leave it in A (or S) mode and not worry about it?

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Robbie - 20 Aug 2005 14:52 GMT
Hi Alan.
I am not sure what you mean by "A" or "S" mode. I was just rying to
determine what the timing was, and a previous poster pointed out that I was
causing a "program shift".
Thanks!
> > Hi All.
> > I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
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> Why don't you just leave it in A (or S) mode and not worry about it?
Alan Browne - 20 Aug 2005 15:21 GMT
> Hi Alan.
> I am not sure what you mean by "A" or "S" mode. I was just rying to
> determine what the timing was, and a previous poster pointed out that I was
> causing a "program shift".
Whatever. I believe you would be better served using that camera in A
(Av) and S ("Tv" in Canonese) modes.

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Slack - 20 Aug 2005 21:23 GMT
> I believe you would be better served using that camera in A
> (Av) and S ("Tv" in Canonese) modes.
Where the heck did Canon get the Tv from ?? I still get confused every
time I want to use Shutter pri.
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dylan - 20 Aug 2005 21:27 GMT
> Where the heck did Canon get the Tv from ?? I still get confused every
> time I want to use Shutter pri.
>
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> Slack
Time Value, to go with Aperture Value ?
Slack - 20 Aug 2005 21:37 GMT
>>Where the heck did Canon get the Tv from ?? I still get confused every
>>time I want to use Shutter pri.
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> Time Value, to go with Aperture Value ?
Ahhh.... thank you very much. Now I can program my brain to remember it.
:-)
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Slack - 20 Aug 2005 21:40 GMT
>>> Where the heck did Canon get the Tv from ?? I still get confused
>>> every time I want to use Shutter pri.
>>
>> Time Value, to go with Aperture Value ?
I guess it doesn't hurt to read the damn manual, too. Just looked it up
and you are correct.
Steve Dell - 22 Aug 2005 01:12 GMT
> I guess it doesn't hurt to read the damn manual, too. Just looked it up
> and you are correct.
Something about "RTFM" comes to mind when I see this comment <g>
Steve
Charles Schuler - 20 Aug 2005 20:34 GMT
> Hi All.
> I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
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>
> Thanks!
If the power switch is in the "past on" position, you can use the rear dial
to boost or drop the exposure when in P mode. The boost or drop does not
time out, by the way and is not cancelled by the shutter release. Set your
camera to the "on" position to disable this feature when using P mode, as
the rear dial can be changed inadvertently.
JPS@no.komm - 21 Aug 2005 03:02 GMT
>If the power switch is in the "past on" position, you can use the rear dial
>to boost or drop the exposure when in P mode.
I think he was talking about the feature that trades f-stop for shutter
speed, not exposure compensation.

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Charles Schuler - 22 Aug 2005 23:55 GMT
>>If the power switch is in the "past on" position, you can use the rear
>>dial
>>to boost or drop the exposure when in P mode.
>
> I think he was talking about the feature that trades f-stop for shutter
> speed, not exposure compensation.
You are correct John, but I have run across numerous posts where it seems
that 20D owners do not understand how the two "power on" settings work and
are thus confused. I think it's an ergonomic design flaw in an otherwise
well-designed camera. Some folks read the manual and some don't. This
"prosumer" category of products is problematic for many owners. They are
led to believe that user effort is not required (marketing hype).
Cockpit Colin - 20 Aug 2005 23:09 GMT
Hi Robbie,
Perhaps I've missed the obvious here - if you're wanting to make changes to
shutter speed and aperture, and not have them alter after any set time, then
why not use manual mode instead of P mode?
Cheers,
CC
> Hi All.
> I hope this is not too basic of a question. I know I can change aperture
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>
> Thanks!