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bruceh - 15 Aug 2005 23:31 GMT

I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.

TIA

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Wolfgang Schmittenhammer - 15 Aug 2005 23:38 GMT

I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.

> I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
> USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
> a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.
>
> TIA

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Colin D - 16 Aug 2005 04:20 GMT

> I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
> Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
> should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
> heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
> believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.

Not really, win2000 is/was a reincarnation of Win NT, the
business-oriented OS, with more peripheral support added in the way of
drivers and usb support, which NT lacked.

XP is a continuation of development beyond 2000, albeit with a few
downsides like inability to run some older programs, and requiring
driver updates for some peripherals.

Colin D.

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DoN. Nichols - 16 Aug 2005 04:25 GMT

>I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
>Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
>should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
>heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
>believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.

Windows 2000 is a step up from Windows NT, which is a more
secure design that Windows 95/98/ME are. But as a result of that
additional security, some drivers which run as user programs will not
work in NT/2000 (and presumably in XP, though I will *not* use XP,
because of its nasty behavior when any hardware changes are made to the
system. Since my only token Windows machine is *not* allowed access to
the internet (for security reasons), the requirement to re-register if I
change things like graphics cards or disk drives makes me jump through
more hoops than I am willing to consider.

I use unix variants for most of what I do, and the only
remaining program for which I absolutely *need* Windows is the annual
income tax software run.

>> I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
>> USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
>> a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.

    My *guess* as to what PTP is would be "Photo Transport
Protocol", based on the newsgroup in which I find this mention. I find
another protocol "PPTP" (Point to Point Tunneling Protocol) mentioned in
/etc/services on a recent OpenBSD machine. However, this does not sound
like a protocol which Windows is likely to support. :-)

    Good Luck,
        DoN.

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G.T. - 16 Aug 2005 05:00 GMT

> >I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
> >Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
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> /etc/services on a recent OpenBSD machine. However, this does not sound
> like a protocol which Windows is likely to support. :-)

Don't know if you're trying to make a funny but PPTP was actually created by
Microsoft. OpenBSD supports it and it's a little better respected now than
during it's initial implementation.

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/faqs/PPTPfaq.asp

Greg

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Jeremy Nixon - 16 Aug 2005 05:04 GMT

> I use unix variants for most of what I do, and the only
> remaining program for which I absolutely *need* Windows is the annual
> income tax software run.

TurboTax Web. No, really, it's quite good. I've used it for the past
several years and it's been very friendly to non-Windows browsers.

Having said that, I use Microsoft Money in Virtual PC for day to day
finance stuff. It's the one Microsoft product that gets my dollar for
actually being straight-up better than the competition. It's the only
thing I use Virtual PC for apart from the occasional test to see if
something is compatible with IE, which I care less and less about as
time passes.

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David H. Lipman - 16 Aug 2005 17:12 GMT

From: "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com>

>> I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
>> Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
| Good Luck,
| DoN.

PPTP -- is a MS Networking protocol (TCP port 1723) for tunneling (shimming) one or more
protocols inside a TCP packet.

PTP - Picture Transfer Protocol is a high level programming protocol for use over; USB, IEEE
1394 (FireWire) or even IP and it is a standard for exchanging images with and between
digital still photography devices.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/p/pi/picture_transfer_protocol.htm

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Toa - 15 Aug 2005 23:54 GMT

>I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
> USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
> a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built
> in.

WinXP is not Win2000. You should probably head here and download a driver
http://alpha02.c-wss.com/inc/ApplServlet?SV=WWUCA900

If you had XP then you'ld probably connect automatically

Toa

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bruceh - 16 Aug 2005 01:30 GMT

> >I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
> > USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> If you had XP then you'ld probably connect automatically

That Canon site shows TWAIN driver for Win 2000. So does PTP
communicate with the TWAIN driver?

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Fred - 16 Aug 2005 12:17 GMT

>>> I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
>>> USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> That Canon site shows TWAIN driver for Win 2000. So does PTP
> communicate with the TWAIN driver?

According to http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/dc/PDF/10D_PTP-e.pdf

"The PTP function is only available to Windows XP or Mac OS X (10.1 or
later) users. This function provides a simple means of downloading JPEG
images to your computer. To use this function, set [Communication] to [PTP]"

Windows 2000 would use TWAIN to transfer images via camera USB connection,
but IMHO it is too slow.
Just use a card reader, it's so much faster.

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