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Canon Digital 350D. Basin Trials V Armchair Theoreticians. - NetObjects Fusion 4.0.lnk (0/1)

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Angus - 08 Aug 2005 17:18 GMT
I started photography in the 70s earning a crust here and there doing
this and that for a variety of customers but also a fair bit for
myself.  I do not regard myself a professional. I'm new to the digital
world and only after being badgered into trying it by a couple of
co-workers. The Canon 350D, with that notorious kit lens, was chosen
because I did not want to commit myself to investing too much in a
branch of photography which I might decide was not for me. But I also
wanted a bit of kit which would perform to a high and reliable
standard and would still have a place in my bag if I decided to go
down that road with more expensive "professional cameras".

The only problem I had was the size. I had difficulty in gripping it
and using the controls, solved by the addition of a Battery Grip!
I gave it a good run out the week I got it. I tried out all of the
combinations which I would normally use on a job.I ended up with
blisters on my fingers but also some fine 'photos.

I took the camera out with me on a 5 day "pot boiler" doing factory
and landscapes. The lens performed just as I expected. Very well.
All of the shots were usable. As for "noise", according to the two who
pushed me down this road, even at 400 negligible to non existent at
100. I was quite impressed. This is a very good entry level camera.
There is a place for this one. I can take dozens of exposures and
check practically there and then. This was money well spent. Of
course, this is only the opinion of someone who earns an extra crust
using a camera. Unfortunately, I'm not an armchair theoretician who
has the time to sit back and consider this that and the next thing. I
don't care if the kit is a perfect reflection of some platonic
artifact in heaven.  If a bit of kit cuts the mustard its in if not
its out.

I suspect that most critics of this model and the kit lens have either
none or little practical experience of either. What they may be giving
out is a rehash of magazine articles and bar chat stripped of nearly
all positive comment. We have this in the UK. There is a guy on TV a
bit of celebrity,( in other words well known), who reviews motor
vehicles. He rips it out of all makes except Ford. But he is thought
to be a bit of a tube. The vast majority of folk don't listens to him
those who do take the piss. I suspect it is much the same in this
group.

Angus.
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Toa - 08 Aug 2005 19:50 GMT
> The vast majority of folk don't listens to him those who
> do take the piss. I suspect it is much the same in this group.
> Angus.

<resounding applause from the deep south>

Toa
Pete D - 08 Aug 2005 21:34 GMT
>> The vast majority of folk don't listens to him those who
>> do take the piss. I suspect it is much the same in this group.
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>
> Toa

What did he say? That the 350D is pretty much like a Ford? I am so confused.
Toa - 08 Aug 2005 22:45 GMT
> What did he say? That the 350D is pretty much like a Ford? I am so
> confused.

Those Poms take a bit of deciphering huh <g>

Toa
Angus - 08 Aug 2005 22:49 GMT
>Those Poms

I am NOT a pom.
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Toa - 08 Aug 2005 23:46 GMT
> I am NOT a pom.

<chuckle>

Hit a nerve huh.  A bit like folks always confusing us with Aussies <hehehe>

Toa
Pete D - 09 Aug 2005 07:21 GMT
>> I am NOT a pom.
>
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>
> Toa

An Aussie, no way, I can hear you from here. ;-)
Angus - 08 Aug 2005 22:49 GMT
> I am so confused.

Remedial education does cover reading. Try it.
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Pete D - 09 Aug 2005 07:21 GMT
>> I am so confused.
>
> Remedial education does cover reading. Try it.

LOL
Cockpit Colin - 09 Aug 2005 09:32 GMT
>>> I am so confused.
>>
>> Remedial education does cover reading. Try it.
>
> LOL

I dun need no remedial edumacation - 6 munz ago i kouldn't evan sphell
fotografer and now i is one!
Pete D - 10 Aug 2005 09:55 GMT
>>>> I am so confused.
>>>
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> I dun need no remedial edumacation - 6 munz ago i kouldn't evan sphell
> fotografer and now i is one!

Oh yeah.
Alan Browne - 09 Aug 2005 00:59 GMT
> The vast majority of folk don't listens to him
> those who do take the piss. I suspect it is much the same in this
> group.

You're in good company.  Not because of your opinion regarding the kit
lens, but becasue of your long winded explanation and mistaken
assumptions about the character of people in this group.
Hunt - 09 Aug 2005 03:12 GMT
[SNIP]

>The only problem I had was the size. I had difficulty in gripping it
>and using the controls, solved by the addition of a Battery Grip!
>I gave it a good run out the week I got it. I tried out all of the
>combinations which I would normally use on a job.I ended up with
>blisters on my fingers but also some fine 'photos.

The "size" is a problem that I have found with many cameras, and not just in
the dSLR lineups. I never embraced the original Oly's, because I could not
hold the little hummer, especailly with a WA lens on it. Many times my back
wished I'd gone with the OM-x, instead of the Nikon F2's, but I can still
walk, with a lot of help.

I find my newish D70 a bit on the small side, and outfitted an earlier CP5700
with a battery pack, primarily to add to the bulk a bit, and have it fit my
hand. With a long lens, the D70 seems to want to fall forward.

[SNIP]

>I suspect that most critics of this model and the kit lens have either
>none or little practical experience of either. What they may be giving
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>
>Angus

Angus, in the US, there is a somewhat tired old saw, that basically states, "
those who can, do, those who cannot, teach... " In the world of photography,
I'd change that a bit to something like, "those who can, do, those who cannot,
cite reviews... " The UK is NOT alone in that respect. While I do not know
either your camera, or your lens, I have great respect for products Canon,
though I've owned and used Nikons form the SP-105 days, only missing a few
models along the way. I know many working pros in all genres of photography,
who use Canon, and I've never heard an unkind word about their gear, except
for an ex-partner, who traded Nikon system for Oly, then Pentax, then Canon,
then Contax. He also had 3 Contax RTS's go bad on one job, and one, after
being refurbed by the factory, fall apart in the rep's hand, right in the
middle of our studio.

It sounds like you have wrung this sucker out, and if YOU are satisfied with
it for your uses, I'd say go with it, regardless of what someone can cite from
the Web, especially if the review is from one, who only photographs accutance
charts and the like.

Hunt
Brian Baird - 09 Aug 2005 06:07 GMT
Samples?

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Angus - 09 Aug 2005 14:09 GMT
>Samples?

No. Prevention of Piracy Act (Republic of Rockall) 1692.  ;- )

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Brian Baird - 10 Aug 2005 05:32 GMT
> >Samples?
>
> No. Prevention of Piracy Act (Republic of Rockall) 1692.  ;- )

That was to prevent highlanders from getting hopped up on whiskey and
raiding the lowlands.  Give us a break!
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Angus - 10 Aug 2005 14:29 GMT
>Give us a break!

Have a Kit-Kat. Pay for it yer self. { : - )
Have a nice day.

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