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UK electronic retailer Dixons to end 35mm camera sales
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Tony Polson - 08 Aug 2005 11:26 GMT From BBC News:
Dixons to end 35mm camera sales:
High Street retailer Dixons, which started by selling 35mm cameras, is to stop stocking the items because of the popularity of digital cameras.
The company has said it will not be stocking any more after the current stock of the film cameras runs out.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4130620.stm
Mike Cawood, HND BIT - 08 Aug 2005 12:09 GMT > From BBC News: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4130620.stm Doesn't make any difference here in Wrexham, they closed their shop down last year. Regards Mike.
Adrian - 08 Aug 2005 12:12 GMT >> High Street retailer Dixons, which started by selling 35mm cameras, is >> to stop stocking the items because of the popularity of digital >> cameras.
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4130620.stm
> Doesn't make any difference here in Wrexham, they closed their shop down > last year. Lucky Wrexham.
I can't see it making any difference to anything, anyway. Nobody with a brain buys ANYTHING from Dixons.
David J Taylor - 08 Aug 2005 12:18 GMT >>> High Street retailer Dixons, which started by selling 35mm cameras, >>> is to stop stocking the items because of the popularity of digital [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I can't see it making any difference to anything, anyway. Nobody with > a brain buys ANYTHING from Dixons. Agreed, except:
- when they offer the cheapest Freeview box around
or:
- when you can buy from them at duty-free prices (which matched the Internet prices but offered bricks-and-mortar service, and happened to prove handy when I needed to have an item repaired under warranty).
David
John Taverner - 08 Aug 2005 12:27 GMT Nobody with a > brain buys ANYTHING from Dixons.
Ahem, there are some of us who have to 'buy' from Dixons.
Had all my kit stolen last year and Norwich Union Direct gave me voucher for Dixons. Got agreat deal on my D70 and 1gig cards and 5 year warranty, (thats if they are still trading ;-( )
Chris Brown - 08 Aug 2005 13:30 GMT >I can't see it making any difference to anything, anyway. Nobody with a >brain buys ANYTHING from Dixons. Well, quite, In addition to them being very expensive, they're also staffed almost entirely by spotty youths who don't know anything about what they're selling, and will try to push a pointless "extended warranty" on you, at extra cost.
It's the sort of place where you could imagine the "sales assistant" telling someone that a camera with digital zoom is better, because digital is obviously better than analogue, or something equally dumb.
Adrian - 08 Aug 2005 13:33 GMT >>I can't see it making any difference to anything, anyway. Nobody with >>a brain buys ANYTHING from Dixons.
> Well, quite, In addition to them being very expensive, they're also > staffed almost entirely by spotty youths who don't know anything about > what they're selling, and will try to push a pointless "extended > warranty" on you, at extra cost. I do admit to having bought a new Iron from Currys a while ago - John Lewis had sold out of the one I wanted, yeronner - and the spotty git tried selling me an extended warranty.
Which cost more than the Iron did.
I resisted temptation.
Chris Brown - 08 Aug 2005 14:08 GMT >>>I can't see it making any difference to anything, anyway. Nobody with >>>a brain buys ANYTHING from Dixons. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >had sold out of the one I wanted, yeronner - and the spotty git tried >selling me an extended warranty. And to drop myself in it, I'll also admit to buying injket cartridges from PC World, but only because they charge the same as John Lewis and have more in stock.
They don't try to sell me an extended warranty (on a printer cartridge?), but do insist on demanding to know if it's for business or personal use. I tell them "both", just to confuse their system.
David Kilpatrick - 08 Aug 2005 15:55 GMT > And to drop myself in it, I'll also admit to buying injket cartridges from > PC World, but only because they charge the same as John Lewis and have more > in stock. So did I till last week when I opened a new magenta and found someone's empty yellow had been popped inside the box. Their own brand.
Very annoying and not a lot I could do to prove it.
David
Liz - 13 Aug 2005 12:59 GMT [PCWorld]
> So did I till last week when I opened a new magenta and found someone's > empty yellow had been popped inside the box. Their own brand. I actually had something similar with a M&S meal: when I slipped it out of its cardboard sleeve I found a non M&S brand of out-of-date rice in it - totally bizarre!
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Peter - 08 Aug 2005 16:12 GMT >Well, quite, In addition to them being very expensive, they're also staffed >almost entirely by spotty youths who don't know anything about what they're >selling, and will try to push a pointless "extended warranty" on you, at >extra cost. How true.
Lately, Dixons seem to have been going through a re-merchandising change, removing all kinds of things e.g. PDAs. Now, they sell almost nothing useful, except a very small range of digital cameras and camcorders. Only their airport stores carry anything interesting.
I know this is putting a bit strongly but I think Dixons will go bust within a year or two. One cannot shrink one's way to success and this is exactly what they are doing. Tandy did exactly the same thing, a few years ago. They replaced shops which carried a lot of bits with very bare ones, and went bust a year or two later.
Adrian - 08 Aug 2005 16:18 GMT > I know this is putting a bit strongly but I think Dixons will go bust > within a year or two. Everybody say "Awwww"...
Trev - 08 Aug 2005 16:57 GMT >>Well, quite, In addition to them being very expensive, they're also >>staffed [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > few years ago. They replaced shops which carried a lot of bits with > very bare ones, and went bust a year or two later. The Dixon's Shops no longer Have a market. The rest of the group Have P C world Have all the computer stuff and digital. Curry's all the Audio range and video + digital Link the Phones. So Dixon's who started it all is no longer a necessary part of the group.
Chris Brown - 08 Aug 2005 17:25 GMT >Lately, Dixons seem to have been going through a re-merchandising >change, removing all kinds of things e.g. PDAs. Now, they sell almost >nothing useful, except a very small range of digital cameras and >camcorders. Only their airport stores carry anything interesting. Time to get back to one of my pet hobby horses - I reckon that anyone basing a large part of their business on selling digital cameras specifically aimed at consumers (as opposed to people who would describe themselves as "photographers", be they amateur or professional), is setting themselves up for a very big fall, and soon. I'm convinced that there is no future in the stand-alone digital camera as a consumer product. Models aimed at amateur and professional photographers will continue to sell, but the so-called "point and shoot" models that people buy to take pictures of the kids, pet dog, etc. are doomed.
And the reason I think they're doomed is because pretty soon, 3-5 megapixels, possibly with optical zoom lenses, will soon be standard specification in mobile phones (at least in Europe and the Far East - north America might take a couple of years longer to get there). If someone whose only requirement from a camera is that it take occasional snapshots, which they either print at a kiosk, or email to their friends already has one in their phone, why on Earth are they going to bother buying a digital camera?
The traditional photographic manufacturers and retailers are in for a huge kicking in this area. Low end, snapshot-type photography is going to belong to the consumer electronics and phone giants in the next few years, and the decline we have seen in 35mm will most likely happen to consumer digital cameras as well, only it'll happen much faster this time. The photography industry is trying to sell typewriters in the era of the word processor, and it's going to suffer for it.
>I know this is putting a bit strongly but I think Dixons will go bust >within a year or two. One cannot shrink one's way to success and this >is exactly what they are doing. Don't forget that Dixons is much bigger than the eponymous shop - they own a number of "pile 'em high, get spotty youths to talk bollocks about 'em and sell 'em expensive with an extended warranty" chains, such as PC World and Currys. Still, it has to be said that they're very much the Ratners of consumer electronics retailing, and look what happened to them...
Tony Polson - 08 Aug 2005 21:26 GMT >I know this is putting a bit strongly but I think Dixons will go bust >within a year or two. One cannot shrink one's way to success and this >is exactly what they are doing. Tandy did exactly the same thing, a >few years ago. They replaced shops which carried a lot of bits with >very bare ones, and went bust a year or two later. I sincerely hope you are not wrong.
;-)
Martin Francis - 08 Aug 2005 19:23 GMT > From BBC News: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4130620.stm Dixons Birmingham has been interesting.
It was in a moderately interesting part of the city, just off one of the main roads. It closed down in 2003 with a massive clearance sale full of ridiculous bargains (60% off Voigtlander lenses, CCS York bags for £30 and plenty of others). They then moved to the new Bull Ring development about 200 yards away for their "Dixons XL" superstore, two floors of utter crap badly presented. This, sadly, represents the entirity of general consumer electronics in Birmingham.
Rumour has it that a combination of low sales and high rent (the Bull Ring is apparently the largest shopping centre in Europe) is forcing them out, and that their apparent relocation will take them to Dale End, a rather out-of-the-way corner of the city centre. Fingers crossed for another blow-out clearance sale, as I need a new TV.
Anyway, I couldn't give a flying monkey's about what Dixons drop or how they do any more than I care what Jessops or PC World do. I pop in once a week to do price matches and that's it. From what i've seen, the local Dixons' film camera lineup is bizarre- a number of APS and 35mm compacts from nobody marques, some budget SLR kits and some very out-of-place high end SLRs, which they never sell anyway. There's even a severely shop-worn Leica 90mm Elmarit gathering dust with a 10% discount that i'm sure migrated to the new store in 2003...
So no real fear of Dixons running out of film cameras, they can't sell the damn things anyway...
Martin
bootlegheavy@hotmail.com - 08 Aug 2005 20:12 GMT In a digital age Dixons will have to do an awful lot to reverse their declining domination of selling technology in the high street.
A quick search on their website reveals just 62 digital camera models. 62! That's pathetic. And nowhere to be seen is the Canon Powershot A95. What's the point?
A typical consumer DSLR: Canon EOS 350D Digital SLR Camera 18 - 55mm Lens Kit
Dixons: £639.24 Dabs.com: £629.80 Amazon.co.uk: £594.50
Dixons is £45 more than amazon! And that's with a couple of clicks. Their site is crap too.
Just like HMV selling a top ten CD for £15 years ago, Dixons and many others are learning that the internet is changing EVERYTHING. I mean WHSmiths were selling Harry Potter for £11.99 (without a deposit) and you can get it for £8.99 from amazon.
The sooner Dixons shuts down the better. They have been charging the public too much for too long, and now there are many more options for the consumer to get the best deal. Unless they drastically change their infrastructure to charge less, they will go belly up. Hoorah!
As for them stopping selling film. It's just a branding thing. Film's future is not determined by blimming Dixons.
ejb - 08 Aug 2005 20:57 GMT Gawd !!!!,I'm feeling old,because I can remember when Dixons did p/ex and sold s/h cameras and lenses !!!!!!
John Fryatt - 09 Aug 2005 11:54 GMT > Gawd !!!!,I'm feeling old,because I can remember when Dixons did p/ex and > sold s/h cameras and lenses !!!!!! Me too. Mind you, it was a crappy Praktica with Exakta bayonet mount, sold as an Exakta. Dixons had done special deal to get them exclusively. What a load of junk. Sold it on fairly quickly and got a Minolta SRT-101. Much nicer.
I won't shed a tear for the demise of Dixons. They seem to represent all that's poor in consumer electronics retail.
ian lincoln - 08 Aug 2005 20:52 GMT some budget SLR kits and some very out-of-place high end SLRs,
> which they never sell anyway. There's even a severely shop-worn Leica 90mm > Elmarit gathering dust with a 10% discount that i'm sure migrated to the > new store in 2003... > > So no real fear of Dixons running out of film cameras, they can't sell the > damn things anyway... Reminds me of a conversation with a customer reagrding the 10D. "Sorry we don't have any, as soon as we get them in stock we sell out."
customer: "dixons have some."
"Buy it from there then"
customer: "wouldn't buy from them"
"Now you know why they have stock. Its a proper camera and no proper camera buyer would go to dixons to get one."
prep@prep.synonet.com - 11 Aug 2005 16:33 GMT > Reminds me of a conversation with a customer reagrding the 10D. > "Sorry we don't have any, as soon as we get them in stock we sell > out."
> customer: "dixons have some."
> "Buy it from there then"
> customer: "wouldn't buy from them"
> "Now you know why they have stock. Its a proper camera and no > proper camera buyer would go to dixons to get one." Almost enought to restore ones faith in human nature!!
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