I lived in the UK for 4 years. The BBC to me is an absolute gem of an
organisation, and I paid my licence fee gladly, knowing the bbc radio alone
was worth every single penny.
Look at what they provide absolutely free of charge, are without doubt the
most impartial news organisation in the world, with no commercial axe to
grind.
They are now giving away the rights to a lot of their own content, they are
now providing pod casts for radio programming. The bbc radio service
provides most of their programs for after a week after they have been
broadcast. The web service is without peer. They provide world services all
over the globe and for all those people outside the UK, they do this for
nothing!
The funny thing is that the people that provide the pictures do it in the
same spirit. It's a kind of open source movement thing. It's people sharing
their talents for free, in support of a news organisation that provides it's
news and resources to you for free. The contributors benefit by having their
work exhibited to a global audience.
Just as you don't HAVE to buy the canon kit lens....you also don't HAVE to
contribute photos to the BBC. If the photo is of commercial value, I'm sure
you'll sell it elseware.
> Heck, the Toronto Star at least gave me $150 for an image awhile
> back. If it benefits their TV broadcasts, why not pay? After all,
> their reporters can't be everywhere all the time?
> -Rich
David Littlewood - 06 Aug 2005 13:25 GMT
>> Heck, the Toronto Star at least gave me $150 for an image awhile
>> back. If it benefits their TV broadcasts, why not pay? After all,
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>contribute photos to the BBC. If the photo is of commercial value, I'm sure
>you'll sell it elseware.
Excellent comments, Steve; as a Brit and an enthusiastic BBC radio
listener I'm glad to see it is appreciated. In all my travels around the
world I have not found anything to match it (especially not, I regret to
say, in the USA).
The answer, as you rightly say, is if you don't like the philosophy,
play elsewhere.
David

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Brian Baird - 06 Aug 2005 18:22 GMT
> as a Brit and an enthusiastic BBC radio
> listener I'm glad to see it is appreciated. In all my travels around the
> world I have not found anything to match it (especially not, I regret to
> say, in the USA).
Did you listen to NPR?

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David Littlewood - 06 Aug 2005 18:54 GMT
>> as a Brit and an enthusiastic BBC radio
>> listener I'm glad to see it is appreciated. In all my travels around the
>> world I have not found anything to match it (especially not, I regret to
>> say, in the USA).
>
>Did you listen to NPR?
Yes; it's probably the best of a fairly awful bunch. There's also a
classical music station in Houston I listen to when I'm there (can't
remember the station letters) which is pleasant enough. The rest is (to
me) simply unbearable.
David

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l e o - 07 Aug 2005 04:10 GMT
>>> as a Brit and an enthusiastic BBC radio
>>> listener I'm glad to see it is appreciated. In all my travels around the
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>
> David
NPR is awful? Let's check out WNYC's programming and see if it change
your mind.
http://wnyc.org/shows/
They also broadcast the BBC World Service, etc. And they have their own
shows, in which I like, "The Leonard Lopate Show." Among NPR network
programs, I like "A Prairie Home Companion." I think the NPR news
programs are okay. They might not have the resources to send reporters
to Iraq, but they have a reporter in China, like Rob Gifford, that turns
in interesting interviews. Oop, it turns out he's a Brit. :)
Brian Baird - 07 Aug 2005 21:30 GMT
> They might not have the resources to send reporters
> to Iraq, but they have a reporter in China, like Rob Gifford, that turns
> in interesting interviews. Oop, it turns out he's a Brit. :)
They did have reporters in Iraq during the invasion, and I'm pretty sure
they maintain correspondents there now. Of course, a lot of newspapers
and TV networks are pulling out staff due to the insurgency, I wouldn't
be surprised if NPR did the same - just a little disappointed.

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Brian Baird - 07 Aug 2005 21:28 GMT
> >Did you listen to NPR?
>
> Yes; it's probably the best of a fairly awful bunch.
How can you call NPR part of an "awful bunch" when it provides news on
par with the BBC... and often BROADCASTS the BBC?

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Jeff R - 07 Aug 2005 01:06 GMT
> > as a Brit and an enthusiastic BBC radio
> > listener I'm glad to see it is appreciated. In all my travels around the
> > world I have not found anything to match it (especially not, I regret to
> > say, in the USA).
Have you been to Australia?
The ABC does a pretty good job here; AM, FM and TV.
--
Jeff R.
(That's the *AUSTRALIAN* Broadcasting Company, BTW)
David Littlewood - 07 Aug 2005 12:32 GMT
>> > as a Brit and an enthusiastic BBC radio
>> > listener I'm glad to see it is appreciated. In all my travels around the
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>
>The ABC does a pretty good job here; AM, FM and TV.
No, afraid I haven't. Hope to do so one day.
David

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Albert Nurick - 06 Aug 2005 21:07 GMT
> I lived in the UK for 4 years. The BBC to me is an absolute gem of an
> organisation, and I paid my licence fee gladly, knowing the bbc radio
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> HAVE to contribute photos to the BBC. If the photo is of commercial
> value, I'm sure you'll sell it elseware.
Excellent comments, Steve. I'd not thought of the BBC as open source
news, but that's exactly what they're becoming, but with the editorial
oversight that is missing from many new news sources.

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Shane Matthews - 06 Aug 2005 21:59 GMT
>I lived in the UK for 4 years. The BBC to me is an absolute gem of an
>organisation, and I paid my licence fee gladly, knowing the bbc radio alone
>was worth every single penny.
May be you need to talk to my boss. When I mentioned in a conversation
that I watched the BBC World news on PBS, his response was "Why? Do
you hate America?"
> Heck, the Toronto Star at least gave me $150 for an image awhile
> back. If it benefits their TV broadcasts, why not pay? After all,
> their reporters can't be everywhere all the time?
> -Rich
The BBC represents what the CBC should be and has little hope of ever
achieving. I wish the feds would transform the CBC into the Canadian
version of US PBS, for that matter.
Cheers,
Alan.

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