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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2005Switching to a Canon digital SLR
The plan is to switch from my EOS 3 to a EOS 350D. Will my Canon lenses be OK? EF 85 1.8 and EF 35-80? What about the Tamron 28-300? I see there is a DI version of this now. What extra does that give? Yes, the EF lenses will work with the 350D. -- Martin > The plan is to switch from my EOS 3 to a EOS 350D. Will my Canon > lenses be OK? EF 85 1.8 and EF 35-80? What about the Tamron 28-300? I > see there is a DI version of this now. What extra does that give? Hi Peter, I'll give you some food for thought ... I bought a 350D and a friend bought a 20D. Looking at all the specs, and reading all the reviews, they appear to be very similar - more or less the same resolution, more of less the same feature set etc - except for a few extra bits that aren't important. To cut a long story short, having had a go with his 20D, I'm now buying one also, and selling my brand new 350D - in other words "I made a mistake getting the 350D". Why? It's hard to articulate, but the best I can come up with is in terms of robustness the 350D is a 'lightweight', whereas the 20D is a heavyweight - heaps more solid. Think of the 20D as being like a heavy duty version of the 350D - case in point, it's shutter is rated at 100,000 actuations -v- only 50,000 for the 350D: On that basis alone it should last twice as long. Additionally it has other "nicities" that make the operation of it more efficient - like the jog wheel on the back and the LCD screen (with setting info) on the top. Just a little food for thought. Cheers, CC > The plan is to switch from my EOS 3 to a EOS 350D. Will my Canon > lenses be OK? EF 85 1.8 and EF 35-80? What about the Tamron 28-300? I > see there is a DI version of this now. What extra does that give? > Hi Peter, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Just a little food for thought. Even more relevant is that the OP is going from an EOS3, I have to wonder if the feel of the 350D wouldn't be a little less than what he is used to. I think that the OP needs to hold the 350D before buying it, then hold the 20D, then decide which tool feels right in his hands.  SignatureMark Heyes (New Zealand) See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 25-June-05) "There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary and those that don't" ANOTHER Kiwi eh? So far We have Colin D - Toa - You - Me ... ... How many others are from NZ? CC > ANOTHER Kiwi eh? > > So far We have Colin D - Toa - You - Me ... > > ... How many others are from NZ? I live in Cairns, Australia but grew up in Auckland. Does that count? -Mike > ANOTHER Kiwi eh? > So far We have Colin D - Toa - You - Me ... > CC We're slowly taking over. <ssshhhhhhhhhhh> Toa > We're slowly taking over. > <ssshhhhhhhhhhh> Officially we're some 16 to 20 hours ahead of the States, but most of us know it's really a LOT more than that - years in fact! :) (Ladies and Gentlemen -- start your (flame) engines!!!) > Officially we're some 16 to 20 hours ahead of the States, but most of us > know it's really a LOT more than that - years in fact! :) Only in a social sense <g> Toa >> Officially we're some 16 to 20 hours ahead of the States, but most of us >> know it's really a LOT more than that - years in fact! :) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Toa Damn - I thought we agreed not to mention the sheep!!! > Damn - I thought we agreed not to mention the sheep!!! Dammit! Now I gotta go have a cold shower <g> Toa >> Damn - I thought we agreed not to mention the sheep!!! > > Dammit! Now I gotta go have a cold shower <g> > > Toa And just how are Baaaarbra and Baaaasil? >>> Damn - I thought we agreed not to mention the sheep!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And just how are Baaaarbra and Baaaasil? Stop it! your making me feel home sick. > ANOTHER Kiwi eh? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > CC Me too - Wellington rules :) Mike. Albumn at: http://photobucket.com/albums/a61/exoss/ > > ANOTHER Kiwi eh? > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Mike. > Albumn at: http://photobucket.com/albums/a61/exoss/ Wellington used to rule, I was born there, but saw the light after 23 years and migrated to Levin for 28 years, where the kids grew up. Then downshifted to Auckland {:-) for seven years, and now in Palmerston North, mostly coz my wife's parents were getting on and needed looking after, mum with Alzheimers and dad with 2 hip replacements - both gone now. Got lots of photos of the old couple with my eos 10 and 300D cameras (to stay on topic). Colin D. > Wellington used to rule, I was born there, but saw the light after 23 > years and migrated to Levin for 28 years, where the kids grew up. Then [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cameras (to stay on topic). > Colin D. Levin 'til '73, Wgtn til 76, Palmy til 78, Gisborne til 80, Hutt til 82, Wgtn til 88, Akl til 98, Wgtn til 01 and Akl since then. Still gots lots of family in Levin etc so am often down that way. We'll have to hook up for a beer sometime. Oh, to stay on topic here's some holiday snaps http://www.pbase.com/toa http://photobucket.com/albums/v70/toa1614/Boscobel-Kanab/ I don't profess to be anything more than a tourist snapper but I learn something new every day Toa > > Wellington used to rule, I was born there, but saw the light after 23 > > years and migrated to Levin for 28 years, where the kids grew up. Then [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I don't profess to be anything more than a tourist snapper but I learn > something new every day Did you use the 300D for the kayak photos? I am starting to get a little less cautious with my Sony V1 P&S (although it does have a very nice lens for a P&S), but my 350D is brand new and isn't going near water for for at least a few mopnths. Mike. Albumn at: http://photobucket.com/albums/a61/exoss/ > Did you use the 300D for the kayak photos? I am starting to get a little > less cautious with my Sony V1 P&S (although it > does have a very nice lens for a P&S), but my 350D is brand new and isn't > going near water for for at least a few > mopnths. I have to admit the Kayak photos were neither taken by me nor with my camera. We were on an island excursion and one of the others in the party had his camera. I was too much of a wuss to taske mine out on the water Toa > > > Wellington used to rule, I was born there, but saw the light after 23 > > > years and migrated to Levin for 28 years, where the kids grew up. Then [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > does have a very nice lens for a P&S), but my 350D is brand new and isn't going near water for for at least a few > mopnths. I've already crashed hard on my mtn bike and landed on my backpack containing my Rebel XT. It seems to be unscathed. Thank goodness for that cheesy plastic body. Greg >> > Wellington used to rule, I was born there, but saw the light after 23 >> > years and migrated to Levin for 28 years, where the kids grew up. Then [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >Mike. > Albumn at: http://photobucket.com/albums/a61/exoss/ I wouldn't worry about it too much, it will float if it falls in. -Rich > > Wellington used to rule, I was born there, but saw the light after 23 > > years and migrated to Levin for 28 years, where the kids grew up. Then [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Toa Thanks for the fast tour there, Toa. Used to have a nodding aquaintance with Sonny Sciascia, I guess he would be a relative of yours. Colin D > Thanks for the fast tour there, Toa. Used to have a nodding aquaintance > with Sonny Sciascia, I guess he would be a relative of yours. > Colin D Yup, Uncle. Still going strong in Levin. Lost his wife about five years ago, re-married about 18 months ago. Ex mayor of Levin, ex President of NZRFU and many other positions of some note. Next time I'm down that way I'll give you a holler. I've got a mate in Palmy who I often stay with and he'ld probably appreciate an excuse for a cpl of hours in the pub Cheers Toa >Hi Peter, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> lenses be OK? EF 85 1.8 and EF 35-80? What about the Tamron 28-300? I >> see there is a DI version of this now. What extra does that give? I appreciate that. However, in the UK, the EOS350D body can be bought online for about 530UKP and the EOS20D body is 920UKP. My wfe would never accept that!! That's an easy one - First you convince her that the 20D is actually better value for money (or just don't tell her the price of either) - and then you reward her for being so understanding with 100 sliders worth of jewelery! On a more serious note I'd suspect that at 920 pounds you're not getting the best price - I'd estimate that if you were to buy a 20D from a good USA based online supplier (without lens which you've got anyway) you shouldn't have to pay more than about 690 pounds. Cheers, CC > >Hi Peter, > > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > online for about 530UKP and the EOS20D body is 920UKP. My wfe would > never accept that!! >>Hi Peter, >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > online for about 530UKP and the EOS20D body is 920UKP. My wfe would > never accept that!! You could lie and tell her only the 20D fits your old lenses. ;-) I bought a 20D after seriously considering the 350D, and don't regret it at all, especially after looking at the 350D in a camera store. One factor that swayed me in the direction of the 20D was the magnesium body. (I assume the 350D is plastic). I figure the 20D has a better chance of survival when it inevitably gets bounced against a rock while I'm climbing rocks to get a good shot of a waterfall. My old Pentax took a couple of bounces without a problem. Really, if you can afford the 350D, you can probably afford the 20D, especially if you've already dot lenses. > >Hi Peter, > > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > online for about 530UKP and the EOS20D body is 920UKP. My wfe would > never accept that!! > that swayed me in the direction of the 20D was the magnesium body. (I > assume the 350D is plastic). I figure the 20D has a better chance of > survival when it inevitably gets bounced against a rock while I'm climbing > rocks to get a good shot of a waterfall. My old Pentax took a couple of I *HATE* to say this, but I've been told by those supposedly in the know that the 350D was supposed to be more impact resistant (kinda like plastic bumbers being more absorbant that metal ones) - I understand that both have s metal chassis. Mind you, I have heard that you can stun a charging rhinoceros with a 20D. > I bought a 20D after seriously considering the 350D, and don't regret it > at all, especially after looking at the 350D in a camera store. One factor [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > rocks to get a good shot of a waterfall. My old Pentax took a couple of > bounces without a problem. <snip> The 300D is plastic, but it's polycarbonate, not tupperware. Aircraft windscreens are polycarbonate. I think a heavy drop could bend a 20D where the 300D would bounce. In any case, the lens would be my prime concern, not the body. Colin D > I appreciate that. However, in the UK, the EOS350D body can be bought > online for about 530UKP and the EOS20D body is 920UKP. My wfe would > never accept that!! Time to trade up the wife I think! Or get her to take up photography. > I appreciate that. However, in the UK, the EOS350D body can be bought > online for about 530UKP and the EOS20D body is 920UKP. My wfe would > never accept that!! "Oh look honey, I can buy a 20D from the US for about the same price as the 350D locally" Then the CC bill arrives: "Oops, must have miscalculated the exchange rate or the freight, sorry - my bad" SignatureMark Heyes (New Zealand) See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 25-June-05) "There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary and those that don't" > To cut a long story short, having had a go with his 20D, I'm now > buying one also, and selling my brand new 350D - in other words "I > made a mistake getting the 350D". I handled a 350D and ruled it out: Great features, great image quality, lousy handling. It's just too darn small, and I used to shoot with an Olympus OM-1 back in the 70's and 80's. The camera felt somewhat cheap, certainly compared to the 20D and even compared to the D70. For me, it's either a 20D (or hopefully its replacement) or a D70 when it's time to retire the Sony 828. SignatureAlbert Nurick | Nurick + Associates - Web Design albert@nurick.com | eCommerce - Content Management www.nurick.com | Web Applications - Hosting > I handled a 350D and ruled it out: Great features, great image > quality, lousy handling. It's just too darn small, and I used to shoot [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > For me, it's either a 20D (or hopefully its replacement) or a D70 when > it's time to retire the Sony 828. Agree, I use a Pentax *ist Ds and tried a 350D, feels like absolute crap. >The plan is to switch from my EOS 3 to a EOS 350D. Will my Canon >lenses be OK? EF 85 1.8 and EF 35-80? What about the Tamron 28-300? I >see there is a DI version of this now. What extra does that give? The way I understand it, the Di lenses still work on 35mm cameras and 36*24mm digitals, but they are optimized for the cropped-sensor digitals like the 350D. I have the Tamron 90mm Di Macro, and it an amazing lens, optically. With the 2x Tamron SP teleconverter attached, it is still as sharp or sharper than most of my other lenses (mainly Canon). Of course, you need flash or high shutter speeds to get its full sharpness, as is true of any super-sharp lens. A 10x+ zoom, however, is kind of hard to make real sharp, but it is probably a bit better than the old one optimized for the 36*24mm frame. Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> John P Sheehy <JPS@no.komm> ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< |
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