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Different DSLR sensitivities

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RichA - 26 Jul 2005 09:33 GMT
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Pete D - 26 Jul 2005 13:42 GMT
This is old news, we have seen this before and guess what, it means
absolutely nothing.

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Alan Browne - 26 Jul 2005 14:16 GMT
> This is old news, we have seen this before and guess what, it means
> absolutely nothing.

Unless you're incident flash metering in the studio ...

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Pete D - 26 Jul 2005 21:11 GMT
>> This is old news, we have seen this before and guess what, it means
>> absolutely nothing.
>
> Unless you're incident flash metering in the studio ...

After your first test you will adjust anyway.
JPS@no.komm - 27 Jul 2005 04:41 GMT
>This is old news, we have seen this before and guess what, it means
>absolutely nothing.

The first slide is metering.  The second is noise, but it is not
measured at the RAW level with external exposure, so it, too, is subject
to metering and noise-reduction in conversion and PP.
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Alan Browne - 26 Jul 2005 14:16 GMT
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=13523054

I posted that data (first chart) here back in Feb or Mar.

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Jeremy Nixon - 26 Jul 2005 15:29 GMT
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=13523054

Yeah, we had a thread about that here like a billion years ago.  As I
recall, from the description of the article, which I don't have and
wouldn't be able to read anyway, they were measuring something, but
ISO sensitivity wasn't it.

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Dave R knows who - 27 Jul 2005 00:45 GMT
>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=13523054
>
> Yeah, we had a thread about that here like a billion years ago.  As I
> recall, from the description of the article, which I don't have and
> wouldn't be able to read anyway, they were measuring something, but
> ISO sensitivity wasn't it.

It's interesting idea. I thought the point was to show which cameras has the
most noise. Did it fail to do so?
JPS@no.komm - 27 Jul 2005 04:48 GMT
>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=13523054

>> Yeah, we had a thread about that here like a billion years ago.  As I
>> recall, from the description of the article, which I don't have and
>> wouldn't be able to read anyway, they were measuring something, but
>> ISO sensitivity wasn't it.

>It's interesting idea. I thought the point was to show which cameras has the
>most noise. Did it fail to do so?

I think so.  Noise should be tested with detailed targets, with external
metering; not the camera's.  Should be done with raw RAW data, too, IMO,
as conversion has so many variables.

JPEGs are not "the camera", unless the camera only does JPEGs.

There really isn't a monolithic noise figure, anyway.  The issues are
too complex to be handled the way they usually are.
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