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mo - 18 Jul 2005 02:18 GMT I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing it. I'll be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was wondering it you have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to decide on a size based solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo
Jer - 18 Jul 2005 02:55 GMT > I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing it. I'll > be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was wondering it you > have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to decide on a size based > solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo Just the other day I was looking at the Lowepro DryZone 200 and was wunderin the same thing. I suppose we could drag our stuff to the store and if it all fits, we commit.
http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Backpacks/waterproof/DryZone_200.aspx
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Tom Foolery - 18 Jul 2005 04:24 GMT >> I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing >> it. I'll be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Backpacks/waterproof/DryZone_200.aspx Ya know, just a thought...so much theft going on these days, someone suggested that you're just advertising your wares with an obvious camera bag, so they just used a nice large diaper bag. Probably be able to keep your lunch in there too.
Jer - 18 Jul 2005 05:33 GMT >>>I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing >>>it. I'll be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > bag, so they just used a nice large diaper bag. Probably be able to keep > your lunch in there too. Point taken... on the one hand I'm not terribly fond of the neon yellow either, unless I'm chasing it down the river - on the other hand, the specs infer the contents would likely survive such a stunt. Or I could just stick with some other enclosure and stuff it in a seabag which is what I did last year in Costa Rica when I chased on the Pacuare. Sadly, this one-strap bag has waaay too many miles on it and is no longer trusted, and the Tamrac inside just isn't big enough. I'm concerned less about theft and more about protection from the elements while 600 miles from pavement. Maybe if I strip off the pretty logos and paste a bio hazard sign on it...
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Taswolf - 19 Jul 2005 01:40 GMT > Ya know, just a thought...so much theft going on these days, someone > suggested that you're just advertising your wares with an obvious camera > bag, so they just used a nice large diaper bag. Probably be able to keep > your lunch in there too. I bought a little Lowepro bag just for my new Rebel XT, and then when I bought the Tamron 75-300 I bought a padded case for it. Added a monopod, external flash, etc.. My solution was to stuff all of it into an $18 backpack from Wal-Mart believe it or not. Very comfy, holds everything, even has a water bottle and pocket! Cheap, and certainly doesn't say "CAMERA!"
T.W.
DoN. Nichols - 18 Jul 2005 05:06 GMT >I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing it. I'll >be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was wondering it you >have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to decide on a size based >solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo One trick to get more into a bag (if you have two or more fairly short lenses), is to glue two of the back caps together. The knurling on the Nikon back caps interlocks, and I've glued them together by holding them together, and dripping a light run of MEK (Methyl Ethyl Keytone) onto the point of joining, then separating them slightly to let it run between the two, and pressing together again. Hold it together for perhaps fifteen minutes (light spring clamps work well for this, and it is then together forever, or until you physically break it.
This allows two shorter lenses to be stored on end in a camera bag in a single storage compartment. In my case, it is a 20mm f2.8 and a 16mm f3.5 -- both are AI and need manual exposure setting. I can do the same with the 50mm f1.4 and the "28-105mm f3.5-4.5 D", so I expect the 18-70mm "kit" lens (when I get it) to work well on this same sort of arrangement.
The 180mm f2.8 (Also AI, but converted to CPU for auto exposure) is as tall as the two lenses combined.
I use all of the above with a D70, but the probable difference is that I keep the camera body and one lens out of the bag, so it holds the SB-800 flash, the stack of two lenses, the 180mm f2.8, and whichever of the 50mm f1.4 or 28-105mm zoom is to on the body at the time, along with the charger and power cord, and a spare battery (in a film loop in the lid). In addition, a handheld meter in the front zipper compartment. All of these fit in a LowePro Elite III with no problem, but to hold a tripod and a collection of filters, I've gone to a somewhat larger kiwi bag which I already had around the house.
I would suggest keeping the LowePro, and using it for carrying a subset of all of your lenses for when you know that you won't need them all -- just to make the load lighter.
One thing about the Kiwi, however, which makes carrying a larger load easier (including a tripod strapped to the case) is that it has a belt to hold the case to the body, so it does not swing around as you walk and climb over obstacles.
Enjoy, DoN.
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Rox-off - 18 Jul 2005 11:34 GMT > One trick to get more into a bag (if you have two or more fairly > short lenses), is to glue two of the back caps together. The knurling on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 18-70mm "kit" lens (when I get it) to work well on this same sort of > arrangement. What a great tip! I have been pondering a way of getting more manual focus short lenses into my Magnum AW bag for a while now.
So far in the bag I have managed to cram in:
D70 with 18-70mm DX F100 with 28-70mm f/2.6 Angenieux (big lens) FM2n (body only) 70-200mm VR 17-35mm f/2.8 16mm f/2.8 fisheye 105mm f/2.5 AIS SB-800 Minolta IV flashmeter.
Everything fits nicely, but I would like to carry along my 24mm f/2.8 for the FM2n. I could do this by hitching it up to the 105mm.
Bag weighs a ton but this is only for times when I am not going to be walking far. For that I have a locally made backpack that swallows up just about everything.
Another good bag is the Lowepro Minitrekker. It carries quite a nice assortment of gear. I'm sorry I sold mine.
DoN. Nichols - 18 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT >> One trick to get more into a bag (if you have two or more fairly >> short lenses), is to glue two of the back caps together. The knurling on >> the Nikon back caps interlocks, and I've glued them together by holding [ ... ]
>> This allows two shorter lenses to be stored on end in a camera >> bag in a single storage compartment. In my case, it is a 20mm f2.8 and a [ ... ]
>What a great tip! I have been pondering a way of getting more manual focus >short lenses into my Magnum AW bag for a while now. I can't claim originality on this. There was such a glued back-cap on the 180mm f2.8 which I picked up at a hamfest about a year ago. I did not get the previous owner's name.
However, the lens back-cap pair had been used so long that the rotation stops on the bayonets were worn mostly away, so you could keep on rotating until it came free again. That was a bit of an inconvenience, so -- I bought a spare pair of back caps, and tried the MEK to solvent-weld them together. It worked well, and I'll be doing more pair as time goes on.
>So far in the bag I have managed to cram in: > >D70 with 18-70mm DX >F100 with 28-70mm f/2.6 Angenieux (big lens) That one sounds impressive. I didn't know that Angenieux made lenses with a Nikon mount. I presume that it is too much to hope that it will meter on the D70 body?
>FM2n (body only) >70-200mm VR Nice!
>17-35mm f/2.8 >16mm f/2.8 fisheye O.K. That's the one which I have back to back with the 20mm f2.8 -- nope, that is a f3.5, not an f2.8. Does yours have the set of four filters built in selected by an extra ring on the lens? Neutral, yellow, orange and red.)
>105mm f/2.5 AIS >SB-800 With the case?
>Minolta IV flashmeter. O.K. I don't have one of these at all -- just a Gossen LunaPro SBC.
>Everything fits nicely, but I would like to carry along my 24mm f/2.8 for >the FM2n. I could do this by hitching it up to the 105mm. Yep.
>Bag weighs a ton but this is only for times when I am not going to be >walking far. For that I have a locally made backpack that swallows up just >about everything. The longest walk that I've taken with this (with a subset of the lenses, but with the strapped-on tripod) was for the 4th of July fireworks. My wife drove two of us (a friend and me) to as close as we could get, but that was rather restricted. And when we returned, we had to walk even farther to get to where she could pick us up. Luckily, it was not a killer hot day, unlike some the week before.
>Another good bag is the Lowepro Minitrekker. It carries quite a nice >assortment of gear. I'm sorry I sold mine. I wonder how it compares with the Elite III that I have. Smaller than the Kiwi, but it carries a reasonable amount of stuff. I have no idea when it was new, as I got mine third hand, back around 1980 or so.
Enjoy, DoN.
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Rox-off - 26 Jul 2005 06:44 GMT >>F100 with 28-70mm f/2.6 Angenieux (big lens) > > That one sounds impressive. I didn't know that Angenieux made > lenses with a Nikon mount. I presume that it is too much to hope that it > will meter on the D70 body? Sorry for the delay in replying - I was having trouble getting this group for a while.
The Angenieux I have is a full auto-focussing F-mount lens that works beautifully on all my Nikons without restriction.
>>FM2n (body only) >>70-200mm VR [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > four filters built in selected by an extra ring on the lens? Neutral, > yellow, orange and red.) I have the filters but they are fitted by means of a bayonet mount at the rear of the lens.
>>105mm f/2.5 AIS >>SB-800 > > With the case? Yep. In the case, with the diffuser and all other accessories too.
> The longest walk that I've taken with this (with a subset of the > lenses, but with the strapped-on tripod) was for the 4th of July > fireworks. My wife drove two of us (a friend and me) to as close as we > could get, but that was rather restricted. And when we returned, we had > to walk even farther to get to where she could pick us up. Luckily, it > was not a killer hot day, unlike some the week before. When I still had my Canon kit I made the mistake of carrying this bag with a whole assortment of Canon gear around the opening of the city's new aquarium. I had a sore neck for a week after!
>>Another good bag is the Lowepro Minitrekker. It carries quite a nice >>assortment of gear. I'm sorry I sold mine. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > have no idea when it was new, as I got mine third hand, back around 1980 > or so. I can't say I know those makes. I am however, determined to get another Lowepro Mini Trekker before the end of the year.
Father Kodak - 12 Aug 2005 19:07 GMT This thread is almost a month old, but I'm a bit behind on my usenet reading.
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> The 180mm f2.8 (Also AI, but converted to CPU for auto exposure) >is as tall as the two lenses combined. [[snip]]
Don,
Are you having that guy in South Carolina do the conversion? the one with the weird web site? I'd like to get some of my AI Nikkors "chipped" but there are a lot of lenses he doesn't convert, such as the 105 mm f2.5.
When I was first learning about this guy and his service, I followed some threads linked from his web site. Read those carefully. There are some very unhappy people out there with this guy's service and turnaround time.
Padre Kodak
DoN. Nichols - 12 Aug 2005 22:01 GMT >This thread is almost a month old, but I'm a bit behind on my usenet >reading. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> The 180mm f2.8 (Also AI, but converted to CPU for auto exposure) >>is as tall as the two lenses combined. [ ... ]
>Are you having that guy in South Carolina do the conversion? Already done -- I received the lens back in time for last Halloween, and it got a lot of use on the drive up to a cousin's wedding.
> the one >with the weird web site? Yep!
> I'd like to get some of my AI Nikkors >"chipped" but there are a lot of lenses he doesn't convert, such as >the 105 mm f2.5. In part, it is because he has to find chips with a matching maximum aperture, and I guess that there is no f2.5 lens with a chip.
In part, it is because he has had difficulty finding room in some of the lenses for a chip -- otherwise, I would have sent my 20mm f2.8 off to him after the other lens was done.
>When I was first learning about this guy and his service, I followed >some threads linked from his web site. Read those carefully. There >are some very unhappy people out there with this guy's service and >turnaround time. Agreed. I spent a lot of time reading all of those links. I got the 180mm f2.8 at a hamfest for $100.00. Until it got converted, I would not be able to use it as I would prefer, so I sent it to him with careful documentation of what I sent, including listing the protective case, and the lens front and rear caps. I talked to him before I sent it. I did not bug him while it was in process. (I know how time can get away from you when you are doing something on the side like this.)
The end result was a lens which worked perfectly, aside from the minor quirk that it lies to the camera, claiming to be a 300mm lens, instead of a 180mm lens. (A minor quirk, all told, as with the 1.5 crop factor, it is closer to 300mm (270, IIRC) than it is to its real focal length. :-)
I have three lenses which I would like to have converted, but he does not do them. The 16mm f3.5 fisheye (which I am *sure* does not have room for the chip), the 20mm f2.8 (which might be a bit tight), and a 80-200mm f4.5 zoom with the focus and the zoom performed by the same collar -- push/pull for zoom, twist for focus.
I now have the 18-70mm "kit" lens, so I have the range of the 20mm covered, though without the f2.8 speed. Some of these days I will get the 70-200mm f2.8. Generally, what I need the 16mm f3.5 Fisheye for can be handled either by a hand-held meter, or by "chimping" with the histogram.
I can't say whether others will have good luck with his work, but I am pleased with what he did for me.
Enjoy, DoN.
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frederick - 18 Jul 2005 05:10 GMT > I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing it. I'll > be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was wondering it you > have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to decide on a size based > solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo I reckon an old cheap looking but funtional bag is the way to go. Just remember not to store your camera equipment in it after use. Some of the bags that I see with foam in them are a very bad idea for camera storage. They get wet from a little rain, then they get dumped camera, lenses and all in a cupboard, take days or weeks to dry out, and act as a fairly perfect incubator for growing fungus. I found a couple of old nikkor lenses in my basement that I had more of less forgotten about for 15 years. I sold one - it was stored loose in the bottom of a cardboard carton, and was perfect. The other was in a genuine padded lens case - and if lens fungus had the value per kg as black truffles, this one would have been priceless.
Bigguy - 18 Jul 2005 07:02 GMT I,m using a LowePro Stealth Reporter 500AW with my D70 kit and it works well so far.... D70 + 18-70 AF80-200 f2.8ED AF50 f1.4 2 x batts + charger cleaning kit, 2 x CF, CF reader, notebook, pens. maglite..
Still room for a flash....
Guy
> I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing > it. I'll be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was > wondering it you have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to > decide on a size based solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo Pete D - 18 Jul 2005 08:11 GMT Kata R-103 or Kata R-102
>I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing it. I'll >be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was wondering it you >have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to decide on a size based >solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo Sam Lowry - 18 Jul 2005 13:50 GMT > I bought a lowepro bag for my Nikon D70s but am already outgrowing it. I'll > be ordering a flash and telephoto lens this week and was wondering it you > have any recommendations for a bag? It is so hard to decide on a size based > solely on measurements! Thanks. Mo I've got a Lowepro Comutreker, and it's a great backpack, one of the features I like is if you run out of space inside you can just add another Lowepro pouch to the outside.
-SL
Alan Browne - 18 Jul 2005 13:51 GMT I use a LowePro 5 (Nova?) for two bodies and 5 lenses, 2 lasrge flashes, and the usual assortment of large diameter filters, fil, and doo-dads of all kinds. Two of the lenses in there are quite large (80-200 f/2.8 and 28-70 f/2.8).
I keep my equipment in there all of the time, so I just need to 'tune' what is in there according to whatever outing I'm on.
I keep thinkig of a new bag but to date I haven't found the right one.
Cheers, Alan
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