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Gambo - 15 Jul 2005 14:45 GMT

Slowly but surely adding to my kit. I am starting to look a flashes and
brackets. Any suggestions from the group for a good flash and sturdy
L-bracket? Thanks

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Charles Schuler - 15 Jul 2005 16:13 GMT

> Slowly but surely adding to my kit. I am starting to look a flashes and
> brackets. Any suggestions from the group for a good flash and sturdy
> L-bracket? Thanks

I don't have an L-bracket but do have a 550EX and a 300D and they work well
together. The cost is around $300.

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Gambo - 15 Jul 2005 16:42 GMT

>>Slowly but surely adding to my kit. I am starting to look a flashes and
>>brackets. Any suggestions from the group for a good flash and sturdy
>>L-bracket? Thanks
>
> I don't have an L-bracket but do have a 550EX and a 300D and they work well
> together. The cost is around $300.

Thanks...I am, assuming (uh oh), that the Canon Off Camera Shoe Cord
will work with the Digital Rebel and the flash....

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Todd H. - 15 Jul 2005 17:03 GMT

> >> Slowly but surely adding to my kit. I am starting to look a
> >> flashes and brackets. Any suggestions from the group for a good
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> Thanks...I am, assuming (uh oh), that the Canon Off Camera Shoe Cord
> will work with the Digital Rebel and the flash....

It does. I use that combination frequently and have the leftover off
shoe cord from my Elan days--works fine.

I had a Stoboframe Pro-T bracket for a week or so. It was okay but I
learned that I don't like L brackets and vastly prefer camera pivot
type brackets.

If you like L brackets though, the Pro T is nice EXCEPT it doesn't
work useably with the battery grip. The bracket makes the vertical
shutter button essentially inaccessible.

I'm using mine with my old stroboframe rotary link system cira 1994.

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Skip M - 15 Jul 2005 21:10 GMT

>> >> Slowly but surely adding to my kit. I am starting to look a
>> >> flashes and brackets. Any suggestions from the group for a good
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> Todd H.
> http://www.toddh.net/

I'll have to check that out, I'm using a Pro T on my 20D, and while the
vertical grip controls are accessible, they are hard to get to.
Otherwise, the Stroboframe Pro-T works as advertised, better than the flip
flash, that flips to the wrong side, putting the controls at the bottom,
rather than the top, of the camera.

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Todd H. - 15 Jul 2005 21:49 GMT

> I'll have to check that out, I'm using a Pro T on my 20D, and while the
> vertical grip controls are accessible, they are hard to get to.

On the 300D, I had to hold the bracket more so than the comfy vertical
grip in oder to snake my index finger to the vertical release.

> Otherwise, the Stroboframe Pro-T works as advertised, better than the flip
> flash, that flips to the wrong side, putting the controls at the bottom,
> rather than the top, of the camera.

True.

If I were spending money on a new bracket, I think I'd go for the
Stroboframe Camera flip though:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=1
05119&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

Dunno if it works with the vertical grip either, but if it does have
the heigh clearance, it would be about hte best you can get I think
since it leaves the whole right side of the camera free of
obstruction.

I have the RL2000 leftover from the ole days and that's what I prefer
to the Pro-T, but it doesn't work at al with the vertical grip. The
RL2000 however, is not what I'd buy today--the way a zoom photographer
holds the camera with your left palm under the platform, and with the
wrist stretch you have to do to reach the zoom ring, that things will
give you CTS in just a few short hours. Next gig I have that requires
a flash bracket, I'm gonna pick up the Camera flip methinks.

Best Regards,
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Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

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Don - 16 Jul 2005 00:46 GMT

Guys

I get mixed messages from various pro photogs. Some say getting the flash
of the camera is a definite, others state that if set up properly and using
the facilities of such flashes as the 580 by Canon with E-TTL 11 then you
are better of leaving it on the camera than using a bracket (L or
otherwise). Any views. Rig is 20D with 580ex and 420ex.

regards
Don

>> I'll have to check that out, I'm using a Pro T on my 20D, and while the
>> vertical grip controls are accessible, they are hard to get to.
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> Todd H.
> http://www.toddh.net/

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Skip M - 16 Jul 2005 05:59 GMT

>> I'll have to check that out, I'm using a Pro T on my 20D, and while the
>> vertical grip controls are accessible, they are hard to get to.
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> since it leaves the whole right side of the camera free of
> obstruction.

It may leave the right side of the camera free of obstruction, but what it
does when it flips, is put the controls that were on the top of the camera
to the bottom of it, and the vertical grip controls are over by your left
hand...
And it says, in the B&H blurb, that it is best for cameras without large
add-on motor drives.

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Todd H. - 16 Jul 2005 07:06 GMT

> > If I were spending money on a new bracket, I think I'd go for the
> > Stroboframe Camera flip though:
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> to the bottom of it, and the vertical grip controls are over by your left
> hand...

Que? Camera rotates counter clockwise to the shooter on these, unless
I'm completely out to lunch.

> And it says, in the B&H blurb, that it is best for cameras without large
> add-on motor drives.

Oh agreed, this is probably not good for accessory grips.

But...is there a bracket that actually works well with battery grips
that lacks other significant annoyances? I'm starting to think 'no'.

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Skip M - 16 Jul 2005 14:30 GMT

>> > If I were spending money on a new bracket, I think I'd go for the
>> > Stroboframe Camera flip though:
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> Que? Camera rotates counter clockwise to the shooter on these, unless
> I'm completely out to lunch.

It looks like it rotates clockwise, in relation to the shooter, otherwise,
rotating counter clockwise, it would run into the handle.

>> And it says, in the B&H blurb, that it is best for cameras without large
>> add-on motor drives.
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> But...is there a bracket that actually works well with battery grips
> that lacks other significant annoyances? I'm starting to think 'no'.

Really Right Stuff makes one, but the cost is exhorbitant.

> --
> Todd H.
> http://www.toddh.net/

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Todd H. - 16 Jul 2005 17:33 GMT

> It looks like it rotates clockwise, in relation to the shooter, otherwise,
> rotating counter clockwise, it would run into the handle.

FWIW, the RL2000 I have rotates counterclockwise. I doubt they'd
change that design that drastically because it would bury the trigger
button at the bottom of teh grip.

The way the pivot works and ht elink system, the camera manages to
avoid the handle unless, as we agreed earlier, there's too much height
(i.e. doesn't work with battery grips).

Best Regards,
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Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

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Skip M - 16 Jul 2005 17:45 GMT

>> It looks like it rotates clockwise, in relation to the shooter,
>> otherwise,
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> change that design that drastically because it would bury the trigger
> button at the bottom of teh grip.

Yeah, but this one flips, not rotates, and the one I used to rent with the
quantums did just that, bury the button at the bottom of the grip.

> The way the pivot works and ht elink system, the camera manages to
> avoid the handle unless, as we agreed earlier, there's too much height
> (i.e. doesn't work with battery grips).

See above, this one doesn't rotate. The lens doesn't stay at the center of
the rotation, the camera makes a 90 deg roll.

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