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Sheldon - 12 Jul 2005 04:53 GMT How did the photog get this effect? (Large photo with the stars/snowflakes, but forget about the stars. Just interested in the soft paleness and high contrast).
http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_pages/0028-0501-2815-5843.html
Anybody? Thanks.
Sheldon
Jeremy Nixon - 12 Jul 2005 05:01 GMT > How did the photog get this effect? (Large photo with the stars/snowflakes, > but forget > about the stars. Just interested in the soft paleness and high contrast). > > http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_pages/0028-0501-2815-5843.html It's hard to say with that small a picture to go on, but, the lighting is very soft, possibly even a ring light, and the colors have been desaturated. What do you mean by "high contrast"? The contrast isn't very high, unless you're talking about the eyes; that's just makeup you're seeing, black eyeliner applied to the inner rim of the eyelids and smudged outward.
Post-processing looks heavy.
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Sheldon - 12 Jul 2005 07:18 GMT >> How did the photog get this effect? (Large photo with the >> stars/snowflakes, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Post-processing looks heavy. I guess when I say high contrast I'm referring to the lack of detail in everything but the lips, nose and eyes, with no details between. It's a great effect. I got turned onto it when I saw a photo, without the snowflakes, of a girl who said she was used as an experiment by the guys who started this effect. Fortunately I was able to contact her and at least get some info, but she didn't have a clue as to what they did to get the shot.
Jeremy Nixon - 12 Jul 2005 07:36 GMT > I guess when I say high contrast I'm referring to the lack of detail in > everything but the lips, nose and eyes, with no details between. It's a > great effect. The face has makeup applied to smooth it out -- no way to tell from the picture exactly what -- and the picture is exposed high key to turn it into one big highlight. If she had any imperfections (pimples, etc) on her face, they were covered first with concealer, or else just removed later with Photoshop (the former is much better and doesn't require you to retouch each photo). Pale eye shadow was used to allow the contour around the eyes to show. Make sure the light is flat and the skin is light and the makeup is light and expose the skin as high as you can, and Bob's your uncle. The subject likes it because her skin looks perfect.
At least, that's how I did it in school years ago on black and white film, I haven't done it with modern digital. :) I've been meaning to do more people stuff, but haven't really done any lately. It's pretty clear why photographers date models -- then you have one sitting around. :)
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Owamanga - 12 Jul 2005 14:12 GMT >If she had any imperfections (pimples, etc) on >her face, they were covered first with concealer, or else just removed >later with Photoshop (the former is much better and doesn't require you >to retouch each photo). Although I'd still agree to this method, a shoot may only be for one image. Once the choice is made *only* the winning shot needs to be touched up.
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Steve Wolfe - 12 Jul 2005 17:48 GMT > The face has makeup applied to smooth it out -- no way to tell from the > picture exactly what -- and the picture is exposed high key to turn it > into one big highlight. If she had any imperfections (pimples, etc) on > her face, they were covered first with concealer, or else just removed > later with Photoshop (the former is much better and doesn't require you > to retouch each photo). Doing a high-key shot doesn't just wash out blemishes, it also hides a good bit of facial form and features, and lets you draw attention to the eyes, lips, and hair, and can do wonders for some less-than-gorgeous people. If you've seen the tuna commercial where the very thing Asian girl walks across a lobby (in front of drooling men) and into an elevator before "releasing" her gut, watch how they use that effect to help hide things like her "piggy" nose until she's in the elevator with the doors safely closed...
Aw, shoot, here's a link:
http://www.raywei.net/funnies/movies/suckitin.wmv
steve
Sheldon - 13 Jul 2005 23:48 GMT >> I guess when I say high contrast I'm referring to the lack of detail in >> everything but the lips, nose and eyes, with no details between. It's a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > clear why photographers date models -- then you have one sitting around. > :) Well, I applied for a job, many years ago, at a modeling agency. These "okay" girls with good features would walk into a room and come out breathtakingly beautiful. I also went to school with Miss Maryland, who later became the runner-up in the Miss USA contest. Probably wouldn't have looked twice at her as she walked down the hall. Thank god for makeup. :-) Most photogs are looking for a good canvas to work with.
I also got to watch a Victoria's Secret shoot recently (knew the owner of the house they were shooting at). The makeup guy had cases of the stuff with him, although I will say someone had to follow me around the house with a mop to clean up the drool. :-) Also, the food was great and the girls were very nice.
Jeremy Nixon - 14 Jul 2005 00:50 GMT > Well, I applied for a job, many years ago, at a modeling agency. These > "okay" girls with good features would walk into a room and come out > breathtakingly beautiful. I also went to school with Miss Maryland, who > later became the runner-up in the Miss USA contest. Probably wouldn't have > looked twice at her as she walked down the hall. Thank god for makeup. :-) > Most photogs are looking for a good canvas to work with. The ones who think they'd be great at it (the hot girls) usually aren't, and the ones who would be great need to be convinced. And it's hard work, and they get treated like crap, and I wouldn't recommend it as a career to anyone. But it would still be nice to have one around. :)
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Sheldon - 15 Jul 2005 05:31 GMT > The ones who think they'd be great at it (the hot girls) usually aren't, > and > the ones who would be great need to be convinced. You've got that right. Good insight.
Rox-off - 14 Jul 2005 13:55 GMT > Well, I applied for a job, many years ago, at a modeling agency. These > "okay" girls with good features would walk into a room and come out [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > with a mop to clean up the drool. :-) Also, the food was great and the > girls were very nice. I think I saw that shoot on F-TV. Was it an old mansion where they used some sort of HMI lighting on the outside of the window facing in?
Gotta love F-TV. They have a photographers segment every day and you seldom get to see the cameras, but who cares!
Sheldon - 15 Jul 2005 05:29 GMT >> Well, I applied for a job, many years ago, at a modeling agency. These >> "okay" girls with good features would walk into a room and come out [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Gotta love F-TV. They have a photographers segment every day and you > seldom get to see the cameras, but who cares! No, this was done in a rather large home in Colorado, shooting the winter catalog in the middle of summer. They were just out here again shooting for the winter catalog. It's amazing how they can make fake snow that looks so real.
JPS@no.komm - 15 Jul 2005 18:47 GMT >It's amazing how they can make fake snow that looks so >real. Maybe they use real water?
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><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< Tony Polson - 12 Jul 2005 11:51 GMT >How did the photog get this effect? (Large photo with the stars/snowflakes, >but forget [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Anybody? Thanks. The technique is called "high key" portraiture. While this shot has been digitally enhanced, you can shoot in this style with digital or film. There is a good specialist book on the subject: "Lighting Techniques for High Key Portrait Photography" by Norman Philips and it is likely to be covered in any good book on portrait technique.
RSD99 - 12 Jul 2005 18:41 GMT Correct.
The lighting was probably something like two 4' x 8' diffusion panels, one on each side of the camera, and possibly a third 4' x 4' diffusion panel below the camera.
High Key lighting has been used since well before the second world war ... and you should be able to find several tutorials covering the techniques used "on the web."
> >How did the photog get this effect? (Large photo with the stars/snowflakes, > >but forget [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Techniques for High Key Portrait Photography" by Norman Philips and it > is likely to be covered in any good book on portrait technique.
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