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Dino - 07 Jul 2005 01:21 GMT
It's dusty, EOS 350D? Any advices to clean ?
ron - 07 Jul 2005 02:46 GMT
I always try an air bulb first. If that doesn't work I use the sensor
brush. However, be aware that some manufacturers will void the camera
warranty if you do anything to the sensor during cleaning.

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Owamanga - 07 Jul 2005 18:32 GMT
>I always try an air bulb first. If that doesn't work I use the sensor
>brush. However, be aware that some manufacturers will void the camera
>warranty if you do anything to the sensor during cleaning.

Ron, when cleaning the mirror, how exactly do you envisage the user
being able to damage the sensor which is hidden behind the mirror and
a closed shutter?

..just curious..

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Charlie Self - 07 Jul 2005 21:20 GMT
> >I always try an air bulb first. If that doesn't work I use the sensor
> >brush. However, be aware that some manufacturers will void the camera
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>
> ..just curious..

OK. I've been wrong once today--I have never heard of a front silvered
mirror surface before--but when I took the lens off my Pentax, the
mirror is staring right at me, sort of from the bottom of the well.
Cleaning it doesn't seem to be a high priority need, anyway, unless the
goop gets so bad that it affects vision through the viewfinder.

The sensor, as you note, is a different matter. It's about 1/50th as
fragile as many of us originally believed, at least when it's in
position and under the glass filter that covers it.
Marek M. - 07 Jul 2005 14:24 GMT
Dino napisał(a):
> It's dusty, EOS 350D? Any advices to clean ?

little breeze of air would do fine... if not pls ignore it.. i know it's
hard but when if you scratch the silvered(very delicate) mirror you
would go crazy and check alll the time wheather the af accuracy is
allright and so on... i did so... well i didn't scratch it... but it's
tiny smeared... just tiny and i keep blaming myself ;))) just air if it
don't helps ignore it... if you can't visit service...
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Charlie Self - 07 Jul 2005 17:15 GMT
> Dino napisa³(a):
> > It's dusty, EOS 350D? Any advices to clean ?
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> tiny smeared... just tiny and i keep blaming myself ;))) just air if it
> don't helps ignore it... if you can't visit service...

So wipe the smear off. The silvering is on the BACK of the mirror.
Andrew Koenig - 07 Jul 2005 17:34 GMT
> So wipe the smear off. The silvering is on the BACK of the mirror.

I doubt it.  I've never seen an SLR that doesn't use a front-surface mirror.
DoN. Nichols - 08 Jul 2005 01:00 GMT
>> So wipe the smear off. The silvering is on the BACK of the mirror.
>
>I doubt it.  I've never seen an SLR that doesn't use a front-surface mirror.

    Exactly.  A rear-surface mirror gets extra reflections from the
front surface for bright objects, so you will wind up with two copies of
each highlight in the viewfinder, and one will be out of focus a bit,
thanks to the different path for the light.  If you focus on the wrong
one (or if your autofocus does), you are out of luck for that image.

    And yes, the front-surface mirrors are delicate.

    Enjoy,
        DoN.

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IMKen - 08 Jul 2005 04:22 GMT
Yep,  I would rather have a need to clean the sensor than the mirror.  It is
extremely soft and once marred it it marred for life.

ken

>>> So wipe the smear off. The silvering is on the BACK of the mirror.
>>
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> Enjoy,
> DoN.
Tony Polson - 08 Jul 2005 22:16 GMT
>Yep,  I would rather have a need to clean the sensor than the mirror.  It is
>extremely soft and once marred it it marred for life.

The mirror is a lot easier and cheaper to replace.
Marek M. - 08 Jul 2005 22:52 GMT
Tony Polson napisał(a):
> The mirror is a lot easier and cheaper to replace.

do you know some prices of mirros of.... for example 350d?
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Deedee Tee - 09 Jul 2005 09:08 GMT
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>The mirror is a lot easier and cheaper to replace.

That may be, but it is also very unlikely that you will need to
replace a mirror during the lifetime of a camera. Small spots and
scratches on the mirror are invisible in the viewfinder and do not
affect pictures in any way. The only problem would be if they are so
large that they interfere with spot metering or autofocus, but this is
not likely (unless some users are into the habit of cleaning the
mirror by spitting on it and wiping it with their elbow, or subject
their cameras to heavy environmental hazards while changing lenses)
David Littlewood - 11 Jul 2005 01:01 GMT
>> So wipe the smear off. The silvering is on the BACK of the mirror.
>
>I doubt it.  I've never seen an SLR that doesn't use a front-surface mirror.

ISTR that my 1971 Zenit E (Russian SLR, built like a tank, low-spec) had
a rear-surfaced mirror. Yes - just got it out (kept it for sentimental
reasons - it no longer works); it appears to have a very thin
rear-silvered mirror, I can see a clear secondary image on waving a
small torch near it, and it doesn't scratch with a fingernail.

It's the only one I have come across, though, so you are substantially
right.

David
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