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Re: Canon Eos 1 DS Mark 2 ??
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Abheet Gidwani - 04 Jul 2005 10:33 GMT HI I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. was wondeing since this is a 16.7 megapixel camera what are the chances of canon introducing a newer model maybe like an 18 or 20 megapixel in the next 4-6 months ??
any information will be appricaited .
thanks
Skip M - 04 Jul 2005 12:36 GMT > HI > I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > thanks Pretty strong, since Mamiya, Hasselblad and Pentax have already announced 22mp cameras with larger sensors than the Canon. I believe the Hassy has been released, too, but I may be wrong on that. Of course, they are a bit more expensive than the Canon, about $10,000US...
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Skip M - 04 Jul 2005 20:55 GMT For some reason, I read "Canon" as "anyone." The likelihood of Canon introducing a camera with more than 16.7 mp is pretty slim, it's still fairly new on the market. As far as introducing a camera with slightly fewer pixels, but at a lower cost, that remains to be seen, but it's a hot one on the grapevine, right now...
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Tom Scales - 04 Jul 2005 21:38 GMT > For some reason, I read "Canon" as "anyone." The likelihood of Canon > introducing a camera with more than 16.7 mp is pretty slim, it's still > fairly new on the market. > As far as introducing a camera with slightly fewer pixels, but at a lower > cost, that remains to be seen, but it's a hot one on the grapevine, right > now... I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1DMkIII. There's a gap from 8mp to 16mp that the D2X sits in, at the price point of Canon's 8mp.
A 12mp sensor at that price point would be a good competitor for the D2X, particularly at a 1.3ish factor.
Tom
Abheet G - 05 Jul 2005 21:08 GMT hassy with a slr ??
>> HI >> I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >been released, too, but I may be wrong on that. >Of course, they are a bit more expensive than the Canon, about $10,000US... Abheet G - 05 Jul 2005 21:11 GMT i mean 35mm
>>> HI >>> I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. >[quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>been released, too, but I may be wrong on that. >>Of course, they are a bit more expensive than the Canon, about $10,000US... Skip M - 06 Jul 2005 02:35 GMT Nope, read the rest of the post, "larger sensors than the Canon."
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> i mean 35mm >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>>Of course, they are a bit more expensive than the Canon, about >>>$10,000US... Scott W - 04 Jul 2005 16:31 GMT > HI > I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. > was wondeing since this is a 16.7 megapixel camera what are the chances of > canon introducing a newer model maybe like an 18 or 20 megapixel in the next > 4-6 months ?? Since the 1Ds Mark II has only been on the market for about half a year I would be surprised if they replaced it in the next 4 to 6 months. The other thing that is not clear is what all improvements that might make on the next model, the number of pixels is only part of what make a good camera. For example it would be very nice if they made a camera with all the capabilities of the 1Ds Mark II but was not quite as huge, or maybe add in a live preview mode, or image stabilization build it to the camera. The points is that one should not just look at the number of pixels as being what makes a good camera. My guess is we will see Canon address some of this other issues in the next 1Ds model, and we may or may not see an increase in the number of pixels.
Scott
Darrell - 04 Jul 2005 21:25 GMT >> HI >> I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Canon address some of this other issues in the next 1Ds model, and we > may or may not see an increase in the number of pixels. Again the live preview, which isn't offered in any dSLR, and for a reason too! It can't be done, I guess people really want a EVF like a gloried Canon Pro1
Scott W - 04 Jul 2005 22:58 GMT > >> HI > >> I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > too! It can't be done, I guess people really want a EVF like a gloried Canon > Pro1 Sure it can be done, in fact Canon did it with a version of the 20D I believe.
Scott
Darrell - 04 Jul 2005 23:12 GMT >> >> HI >> >> I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Sure it can be done, in fact Canon did it with a version of the 20D I > believe. Sorry you are wrong. The 20Da has a focus assist live view only during exposure. This is for astro photography which can have exposures in the hours.
David Littlewood - 05 Jul 2005 19:08 GMT >>> >> HI >>> >> I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >exposure. This is for astro photography which can have exposures in the >hours. This seems to be true - though the Canon datasheet for the 20Da is not entirely clear on this point.
The fact is, however, that it could be done quite easily for any DSLR if the manufacturer wanted to do it, by slightly adapting the sensor cleaning mode. It would be incredibly useful for macro work and photomicrography, but unfortunately it seems that these activities do not have enough "mass market" appeal to justify the extra few dollars/pounds it would cost.
When I first saw the details of the 20Da, I thought it would be the solution. Alas, it seems not.
David
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Tony Polson - 04 Jul 2005 16:43 GMT >HI > I have been consedering buying the canon eos1ds mark 2 for a while. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >any information will be appricaited . If 16.7 MP is enough for your photography, why would it matter if Canon brought out a model with more pixels?
Marek M. \ - 04 Jul 2005 16:53 GMT Tony Polson napisał(a):
> If 16.7 MP is enough for your photography, why would it matter if > Canon brought out a model with more pixels? yeah... f.ck the pixes... they are not the real resolution! pfff and what if Canon annouces a 2gigapixel camera.... geee forget about it, buy an equipment which satisfy you - and go take pictures... not talk on newsgroups about prophecies and pffff imgainations..
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Abheet G - 05 Jul 2005 21:03 GMT sure the pixels dont matter .. i only asked that question consedring that they (canon)are quiet capable of doing so .. so instead of investing in something in the next 4 months i wouls like to in the latest model ao that all the bugs in the current one are taken care off.
>Tony Polson napisał(a): >> If 16.7 MP is enough for your photography, why would it matter if [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >about it, buy an equipment which satisfy you - and go take pictures... >not talk on newsgroups about prophecies and pffff imgainations.. Tony Polson - 05 Jul 2005 21:45 GMT >sure the pixels dont matter .. i only asked that question consedring that >they (canon)are quiet capable of doing so .. so instead of investing in >something in the next 4 months i wouls like to in the latest model ao that >all the bugs in the current one are taken care off. What bugs?
Abheet G - 06 Jul 2005 08:33 GMT if any in the present model....
>>sure the pixels dont matter .. i only asked that question consedring that >>they (canon)are quiet capable of doing so .. so instead of investing in >>something in the next 4 months i wouls like to in the latest model ao that >>all the bugs in the current one are taken care off. > >What bugs? Tony Polson - 06 Jul 2005 10:23 GMT >if any in the present model.... You can be assured ... there aren't any. If there were any, they would have been corrected before now.
If this is the level of your product knowledge, perhaps you should consider buying something cheaper.
Abheet Gidwani - 07 Jul 2005 09:52 GMT the reason i havent bought it as yet is perhaps my product knowledge is a lil weak ... so i asked.. thanks anyways.
>>if any in the present model.... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >If this is the level of your product knowledge, perhaps you should >consider buying something cheaper. Tony Polson - 07 Jul 2005 12:31 GMT >the reason i havent bought it as yet is perhaps my product knowledge is a >lil weak ... so i asked.. thanks anyways. Perhaps you should start with a beginner's camera, such as the Canon EOS 350D (Rebel RT) or Nikon D70, and work upwards from there.
Abheet G - 07 Jul 2005 22:19 GMT i already own a canon 20 d .. i was looking foward to upgrade to the canon eos 1ds mark 2
>>the reason i havent bought it as yet is perhaps my product knowledge is a >>lil weak ... so i asked.. thanks anyways. > >Perhaps you should start with a beginner's camera, such as the Canon >EOS 350D (Rebel RT) or Nikon D70, and work upwards from there. Scott W - 07 Jul 2005 23:34 GMT > i already own a canon 20 d .. i was looking foward to upgrade to the canon > eos 1ds mark 2 There is a lot to like about the 1Ds Mark 2, but out of curiosity what are you looking for that the 20D is not giving you?
Scott
Abheet Gidwani - 08 Jul 2005 09:25 GMT well i am considering the 1dsmark2 mainly because i am going to be shooting sills for a feature film .. and with the 20 d i am afraid i will not be able to make as many blow ups because of the resolution ..as the film publicity posters wiould require larger files.
>> i already own a canon 20 d .. i was looking foward to upgrade to the canon >> eos 1ds mark 2 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Scott G.T. - 08 Jul 2005 16:30 GMT > well i am considering the 1dsmark2 mainly because i am going to be shooting > sills for a feature film .. and with the 20 d i am afraid i will not be able > to make as many blow ups because of the resolution ..as the film publicity > posters wiould require larger files. You're going to be shooting window sills for a feature film and you can't even write or post properly? Damn, the film industry must be dropping their standards.
Greg
Frank ess - 08 Jul 2005 17:18 GMT >> well i am considering the 1dsmark2 mainly because i am going to be >> shooting sills for a feature film .. and with the 20 d i am afraid [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Greg sh
Abheet G - 08 Jul 2005 19:44 GMT u got a problem greg? look at what u have written .. just a peice of advice .. raise your standards by not getting so god damn literal cheers!
>> well i am considering the 1dsmark2 mainly because i am going to be shooting >> sills for a feature film .. and with the 20 d i am afraid i will not be able [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Greg Abheet G - 08 Jul 2005 19:52 GMT peice of S$%T
>> well i am considering the 1dsmark2 mainly because i am going to be shooting >> sills for a feature film .. and with the 20 d i am afraid i will not be able [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Greg G.T. - 08 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT > peice of S$%T Keep digging your own hole. Maybe someday you'll figure out how to use Usenet. Or maybe not.
Greg
Abheet G - 08 Jul 2005 21:41 GMT you sound so frustrated .. ill leave you to your misery. ENJOY !
>> peice of S$%T > >Keep digging your own hole. Maybe someday you'll figure out how to use >Usenet. Or maybe not. > >Greg Abheet Gidwani - 08 Jul 2005 09:28 GMT hey tony
i already own a canon 20 d.. now i need to know wether i should upgrade to a 120 film format or stick to digital.. very confused .. please suggest ..
>>the reason i havent bought it as yet is perhaps my product knowledge is a >>lil weak ... so i asked.. thanks anyways. > >Perhaps you should start with a beginner's camera, such as the Canon >EOS 350D (Rebel RT) or Nikon D70, and work upwards from there. Scott W - 08 Jul 2005 16:01 GMT > hey tony > > i already own a canon 20 d.. now i need to know wether i should upgrade to a > 120 film format or stick to digital.. very confused .. please suggest .. I am a huge fan of digital cameras, but unless you are going to be shooting a lot of stills for movies posters a MF camera would be more cost effective. The 1Ds Mark 2 will be in many ways a lot easier to use and avoids the need to scan the film later, but it has a pretty high price tag, as you well
Scott
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