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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2005Canon Digital Rebel XT - Lens help
A beginner, I bought a Canon Digital Rebel XT and looking for two lens. One that has a good zoom, EF75/200 ? One good macro lens? I need to take pictures of dogs working, they may be 50 to 100 yard away, and really close shots. Bev Peabody : -- k9malinois > A beginner, I bought a Canon Digital Rebel XT and looking for two lens. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I need to take pictures of dogs working, they may be 50 to 100 yards > away, and really close shots. To get close shots of dogs that are 100 yards away, you will probably want something with a bit more range than a 200. Also, if the shots are pretty close, then 75mm will probably be a bit too long. A 28-300mm L lens would seem the most appropriate, but of course, it's a pretty expensive lens. Sigma makes a 28-300 that's about 1/5th or 1/6th the price of the Canon "L" lens, but with a commensurate drop in quality. steve Steve Wolfe napisał(a): > To get close shots of dogs that are 100 yards away, you will probably want > something with a bit more range than a 200. Also, if the shots are pretty > close, then 75mm will probably be a bit too long. A 28-300mm L lens would > seem the most appropriate, rotfl :D lmao!!! Don't buy ultra zoom sh.t... 70-200/4L or cheaper ef 100-300... not produced, but you can get it on ebay!!! really goood lens!  Signature.........Marek Mollin "rogus"......... ..http://rogus.atspace.com/da/ad.jpg.. ............coming soon............... ..............Pozdrawiam.............. > > To get close shots of dogs that are 100 yards away, you will probably want > > something with a bit more range than a 200. Also, if the shots are pretty [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > or cheaper ef 100-300... not produced, but you can get it on ebay!!! > really goood lens! The armchair quarterbacks often fail to realize that there are plenty of real-world situations where you have about three seconds to go from a distant subject to a very close one, and if you miss it, you miss it. And when that's the case, a shot of somewhat lower quality is still better than no shot at all - and the "lower quality" of the 28-300, being a true "L" class lens, is still pretty darn good. I'd personally trust it much more than a $300 EF-class lens. Sure, if he had all the time in the world and money to burn, he could go with a 100-400 "L" and a 24-70 "L" - or even primes - but from his description, it sounds like he doesn't exactly have that luxury. steve >> > To get close shots of dogs that are 100 yards away, you will probably > Sure, if he had all the time in the world and money to burn, he could go > with a 100-400 "L" and a 24-70 "L" - or even primes - but from his > description, it sounds like he doesn't exactly have that luxury. Two bodies!!!! Yeah that would solve the problem. ;-) -- Rob >>>> To get close shots of dogs that are 100 yards away, you will >>>> probably [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Two bodies!!!! Yeah that would solve the problem. ;-) And generate others. The multi-body solution was a handy one back in the F-1N, A1, AE-1, AE-1P era. My arrangement was the first two hanging ready and the other two in a big bag, also hanging. Couple weeks ago I went to a luncheon-picnic and as another fellow present said, was "loaded for bear": 20D / Canon 24-70 L and RebXT / EF-S 10-22; Nikon CP 8700 in a fanny-pack worn in front. I'm not as strong as I was twenty years ago, and apparently not as staminous, either. After an hour or so lugging that load around, minding their trajectories in all dimensions, I was ready for a break. It was much more pleasant and productive to leave the bag and one camera under the eye of a companion, and hit the high spots with the other camera, coming back to switch. All that to avoid changing lenses in a dusty environment. I'd reckon a few weeks of every-other-day practice at that, I'll be ready for an upcoming three-and-a-half-day project. Adjusting to the weight will come naturally. Perfecting the two-heavy-camera ballet has the potential to be costly. It is no trivial exercise to move into position, choose and swing into readiness a camera while keeping another safe and unobtrusive. In such circumstances I'd seriously consider a super-zoom trade-off of convenience for slightly diminished quality. If I weren't beginning to learn to appreciate some of the subtle differences between "regular" and "L" products. And if the zoomer would start a good deal wider than the currently available examples. 28-300? Yes, but ... Decisions, decisions. Reminds me: weight and size not withstanding, I wish I'd waited that couple months and saved up for a second 20D: the RebXT is a nice camera with excellent output, but the 20D is much easier to control. Rather, it makes me a much better controller with less perceived effort. I'll start on that weight training and conditioning program after this long weekend. Yes I will. SignatureFrank ess > I need to take pictures of dogs working, they may be 50 to 100 yards > away, and really close shots. Bev- At 100 yards, a dog may be hard to recognize as a dog if you use the 200mm zoom lens. Steve Wolfe's 100-400 L lens suggestion is the closest you might be able to use, and I expect you would be disappointed at the greater distance. It would be a good idea to try-out a lens before spending that kind of money, to be sure you can use it at all. If you take a picture with a lens you have, you can estimate the focal length you need. If the subject needs to be ten times as big in the resulting photo, you need a lens with ten times the focal length. Longer lenses often have smaller maximum apertures, resulting in slower shutter speed and a greater chance of camera-shake. Unless you use a tripod, you should also consider a lens with the Image Stabilization (IS) feature. Fred A newbie thought here (i.e. take with a grain of salt) What about the EF 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS USM (i.e. 45-216) and then a macro lens in addition? Or would 216 not be sufficient for the 50-100 yard range?. > A newbie thought here (i.e. take with a grain of salt) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > yard > range?. Here's a dog, small, one each, taken from about thirteen yards distance, with a 300mm lens: http://www.fototime.com/34B0BA5E8869D4B/orig.jpg et in the corner 300mm Full frame Canon EF 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 DO IS 1/400 @ f/7.1 Canon 20D Hand-held IS Auto focus Reduced to size in 10% decrements Unsharp Mask 100%, 0.4, 0, Fade USM Save For Web at Photo Shop 30 quality I estimated the distance to be twenty yards, but when I measured it with a metal tape, it was quite a bit less. I wonder if the OP is accurate in the 50 to 100-yard distance specified. SignatureFrank ess Have you thought about the Canon 70-300 DO lens? It's reasonably fast and small enough that you're not going to be worrying much about it. I've shot with a 70-200 f/2.8 L lens. Beautiful photos but too much weight for the kind of application your are looking for. Steve > A beginner, I bought a Canon Digital Rebel XT and looking for two lens. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bev Peabody :( For macro get the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 its an excellent macro/portrait lens. However for dogs and close up shots a 50mm f/1.4 would probably be better. Here is an example of a close up of a dog with the 50mm f/1.4 lens http://photography.firstchurchofthestreets.com/pets/kirk04bi.htm For the reach you might do ok with a 70-200L f/4 an excellent lens, and if 200mm isn't long enough go for the Canon 100-400L also an excellent lens. > A beginner, I bought a Canon Digital Rebel XT and looking for two lens. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > k9malinois |
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