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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / June 2005Ink Jet Printer Streaks Photos
Hi, Has anyone had this problem and cured it? I can think of a lot of things to _try_, but would like to hear from someone who has had it and fixed it. A little more detail - the printer will streak prints I make on glossy photo paper. If I make the same prints on regular copier paper, they are OK - no visible streaking. I haven't tried "flat" finish photo paper, but don't want that result anyway. In my experience, which is fairly limited in this area, ink jet printers do this frequently. I decided not to buy one, a 3 in one printer/copier/fax, because the guy demonstrating it in the store couldn't get it to stop streaking the output on photos. Do they all streak, and people just put up with this? I'd get a laserjet except for the hideously expensive price of the ink cartridges, somewhere around $300 on some of them. Maybe just have them printed commercially and quit worrying about doing it myself? That might be the cheapest and most effective way to get good prints. My printer is an HP 952C, BTW, but doesn't seem to be close to unique in doing this. The streaking is not really bad, but can be seen in homogeneous color areas like sky areas. Dave Head From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> | Hi, | [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] | | Dave Head Printer needs maintenance/cleaning.  SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm >From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Printer needs maintenance/cleaning. Thanks. I'll give the cleaning a try. I seem to have everything I need (swabs, distileld water) to try that except the time (gotta get to work...) Maybe tonight. Hopefully I won't have to send it someplace for maintenance... Dave Head From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> | Thanks. I'll give the cleaning a try. I seem to have everything I need | (swabs, distileld water) to try that except the time (gotta get to work...) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | | Dave Head Isopropyl Alcohol is better at removing ink. SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm >>From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> > Thanks. I'll give the cleaning a try. I seem to have everything I need > (swabs, distileld water) to try that except the time (gotta get to work...) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave Head Keep a particular eye out for dust/fibers stuck to the underside of the print carriage. They can stick to some drying ink on the carriage and proceed to paintbrush every swath of new ink. This drove me nuts for a couple weeks once with an old HP inkjet until I found it. Dave >>>From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Dave Yes - I thought of that as soon as I saw the procedure for cleaning the undercarriage for the print cartridges in the manual I downloaded. They have never been cleaned, and I've had the thing for maybe 3 years... <G> I forgot you actually have to clean it! I figured that the changing of the ink cartridges periodically would take any foreign matter with it - forgot about the possibility of stuff accumulating on the cartridge carrier. Aw well, cleaning stuff is one of my least favorite activities, anyway... I'm getting ready to take a pile of pictures at ham radio field day this weekend, and so will new pictures to print. Will clean it and print some things and we'll see. Dave Head Use the 'genuine' paper and inks, set printer to use the correct paper type, run printer cleaning routine... if it still makes streaks then it is broken and needs repairing - or replacing. Streaking suggests too much ink on the paper or a print head problem. Guy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Dave Head >Use the 'genuine' paper and inks, Not sure what this means. Is FujiFilm printer paper "genuine"? >set printer to use the correct paper type, I'm not familar with any setting like this, but I just downloaded the manual (seem to have misplaced the paper one) so I'll look for such a setting in there. >run printer cleaning routine... if it still makes streaks then it is broken >and needs repairing - or replacing. Have considered replacing but don't know what would be better than an HP anyway. >Streaking suggests too much ink on the paper or a print head problem. Maybe dirty. Will try cleaning 1st, as its also the cheapest. Dave Head >Guy > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> Dave Head >>Use the 'genuine' paper and inks, >Not sure what this means. Is FujiFilm printer paper "genuine"? Some printers work best with their own brand of paper (e.g. "HP photo paper" if such a thing exists). Don't know if that applies to HP. >>set printer to use the correct paper type, > >I'm not familar with any setting like this, but I just downloaded the manual >(seem to have misplaced the paper one) so I'll look for such a setting in >there. In MS Windows, it's often under advanced settings in the print setup options, when you're about to print. >Maybe dirty. Will try cleaning 1st, as its also the cheapest. I don't know how easy it is to clean HP print heads, but Epson isn't all that "customer friendly". I figured out how to do it, but only after managing to separate a flex cable from the PCB when I took off the wrong bit. Oh well, the printer was a junker anyway, but now I know.. SignatureKen Tough > Hi, <snipped> > Do they all streak, and people just put up with this? I'd get a > laserjet except for the hideously expensive price of the ink > cartridges, somewhere around $300 on some of them. Maybe just have > them printed commercially and quit worrying about doing it myself? > That might be the cheapest and most effective way to get good prints. <snipped> Personally speaking, I am getting tired of inkjet printer nozzle foibles, and am changing to a High-Touch 730PS Dye-sub printer which does up to 6"x8" in size for my photos. Choice of Matt or Gloss finish and water resistant to boot. Costing about £300 new here in UK, and paper/ink ribbon cost £18 for 60 sheets of 6"x4" and £21 for 30 sheets of 6"x8". As we are nearly always dearer proportionally than USA prices, I've no doubt you will be even more pleasantly surprised. However, this is OT for this group, so suggest we leave it at that for now. ;-) Kind regards SignatureNigel_H >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Kind regards Thanks for the tip. That looks interesting. If things are still unsatisfactory after I clean the HP, I might be buying yet another printer, and that might just be a solution! Dave Head [ ... ] >>Personally speaking, I am getting tired of inkjet printer nozzle foibles, >>and am changing to a High-Touch 730PS Dye-sub printer which does up to 6"x8" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>dearer proportionally than USA prices, I've no doubt you will be even more >>pleasantly surprised. [ ... ] >Thanks for the tip. That looks interesting. If things are still >unsatisfactory after I clean the HP, I might be buying yet another printer, and >that might just be a solution! I know that I printed a particular photo at 8x10 size from my D70 (closeup of the cat) on my Epson ink spitter, and compared that to the same image (carried in on a CF card to the local photo store) printed to the same size on a dye-sub printer which they were promoting at the time. The colors were perhaps a bit more accurate. (I had to go back to the objects in the original scene to be sure.) But -- the resolution was terrible compared to the Epson. Areas where I could count individual hairs on the cat in one photo were just colored blurs in the other. So -- for my purposes, the Epson is more satisfactory. The only problem is that both printers only have a USB port (plus a slot for sticking CF cards into), and my serious computers don't use USB, so the CF card is the only way to feed it an image. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- > [ ... ] > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > (plus a slot for sticking CF cards into), and my serious computers don't > use USB, so the CF card is the only way to feed it an image. Isn't it time to get a newer "serious computer", I assume they don't have Firewire, either? Sun Blade 2500, maybe? Greg [ ... ] >> The only problem is that both printers only have a USB port >> (plus a slot for sticking CF cards into), and my serious computers don't >> use USB, so the CF card is the only way to feed it an image. > >Isn't it time to get a newer "serious computer", I assume they don't have >Firewire, either? Sun Blade 2500, maybe? I've got a Sun Blade 100 (which has USB), but it wound up being my wife's machine in a shuffle of machines recently, so I don't have it to experiment with talking to the Epsom printer. And the Sun Blade 2500 is still a bit out of reach. I'm retired, on a fixed income, and I'm getting Sun computers for less than $200.00 each, so my choices are perforce somewhat older. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- From: "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | I've got a Sun Blade 100 (which has USB), but it wound up being | my wife's machine in a shuffle of machines recently, so I don't have it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | Enjoy, | DoN. At ~$10.00 US per USB v2.0 port, get a USB v2.0 PCI card. SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm > From: "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > At ~$10.00 US per USB v2.0 port, get a USB v2.0 PCI card. Uhhh, what if he doesn't have anything but SBus slots? Greg >> From: "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> | retired, on a fixed income, and I'm getting Sun computers for less than >> | $200.00 each, so my choices are perforce somewhat older. [ ... ] >> At ~$10.00 US per USB v2.0 port, get a USB v2.0 PCI card. >Uhhh, what if he doesn't have anything but SBus slots? Exactly the situation. And I have been *watching* for SBus cards capable of talking USB -- and not seen any. Remember -- not all the world is PC-Compatible. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- From: "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> >>> From: "DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] | Enjoy, | DoN. PCI is a well excepted 32bit/64bit bus supported by many vendors including SUN. I'm sorry you don't have a system that provides PCI. But that the problems one runs into withy proprietary systems and/or buses. Sorry for the confusion. SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm From: "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> | Uhhh, what if he doesn't have anything but SBus slots? | | Greg That'sd another story ! SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm I bought a HP ColorLaserjet 3500L and it prints really nice images with the newfangled toner they are using. I was amazed that the prints at 81/2X11 looked almost as good as any inkjet print off my 7550. And it's much faster with the inline cartridge system instead of bang and clunk rotating methods. Consider that model too. Steve m... >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Kind regards Hi Steve, Thanks for the tip. I am thinking laserjet too. Its just that they mostly are extremely expensive to buy and operate. I see that a 3500L takes 4 ink cartridges that each run $133. $533 to re-ink it is a major pucker factor. Supposedly they last 4000 sheets, so that's 8 cents a picture, not too bad. But I'd have a regular black and white printer to do non-photos, and use it a lot, and hope these ink cartridges will last for several years while I use other printers to do all but my very finest prints. But... its a thought. Thanks again, Dave Head >I bought a HP ColorLaserjet 3500L and it prints really nice images with the >newfangled toner they are using. I was amazed that the prints at 81/2X11 [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >> Kind regards From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> | Hi Steve, | [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | Dave Head | | On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:09:25 GMT, "Steve m..." <Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> Laser Printers don't use ink. They use dry toner ;-) SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm >From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Laser Printers don't use ink. They use dry toner ;-) Seriously expensive dry toner... From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> | Seriously expensive dry toner... I have administrated corporate LANs with *many* HP inkjets and Lasers. The toner for a HP 8150 is ~$250.00 US. One must realize that the cost of printing is NOT in the initial cost of the printer but in its maintenance. Colour lasers have been *very* expensive for a long time and the cost has dropped significantly in the past 6 years. One must not just look at its initial cost but its Total Cost of Ownership (TCO). SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm >From: "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> >| [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >toner for a HP >8150 is ~$250.00 US. >One must realize that the cost of printing is NOT in the initial cost >of the printer but in its maintenance. Yeah, and inkjet ink isn't particularly cheap either, for not that many full page prints. >Colour lasers have been *very* expensive for a long time and the cost has >dropped >significantly in the past 6 years. > >One must not just look at its initial cost but its Total Cost of Ownership >(TCO). How would you say a laser compares to inkjet in those terms, per A4 (8x11) printed photo page? SignatureKen Tough From: "Ken Tough" <ken@objectech.co.uk> | How would you say a laser compares to inkjet in those terms, per A4 | (8x11) printed photo page? I don't perform a Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) on printing. I just maintain, administer and manage them. Sorry :-( SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm You need to increase the ink output to the paper. The glossy coating takes much more ink. If you are using HP paper you can set the printer to automatic and it should adjust the ink acording to the paper in the printer. Non HP paper you have to adjust the ink load by choosing the complimentry paper from the printers preferences just before you print. HPs tend to revert to their default so if you are using a paper a lot change the paper chice in the main printer setup section of your operating system. Tom > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Dave Head I'm not familiar with HP printer commands but somewhere there should be a file for maintenance and head cleaning. I had an Epson and recently purchased a Canon i9900. You have to print at least every other day or the nozzles will get plugged, no matter what brand of printer you have. 1)Be sure to use the right printer setting for the type of paper you're using. 2)Make sure your printer heads are properly aligned. 3)You may have to do a head cleaning over and over until the streaks are gone. If the streaking isn't improving with each cleaning, you may need to have it serviced. Hope this helps, Oscar |
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