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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / January 2005NEF file to Photoshop...
I am trying to extract RAW (NEF) files off of a Nikon D70. Using the Nikon Capture Editor (4.1.3), and asking it to open directly in photoshop, or to save it first as a TIFF, then opening it with PS 7 manually ... either way, I get an error message from Photoshop that says Could not open "C:\whatever\path\name\foobar.tif" because of a problem with the file-format module interface. I've never had any problems opening normal TIFF Files before with PS7, so something about the file format, or save options needing to be massaged from the Nikon software? Anyone seen this? Why are you messing around with Nikon Capture if you have Photoshop? Nikon Capture's routine for exporting to PS is buggy and slow; the first time I tried it I thought my computer had frozen. > Why are you messing around with Nikon Capture if you have Photoshop? Nikon > Capture's routine for exporting to PS is buggy and slow; the first time I > tried it I thought my computer had frozen. Runs fine speedwise on my computer, a dual processor Xeon. However, if you know how to open a .NEF file with PS7, please let me know. As I pointed out in the original post (perhaps not clearly enough) I tried both direct, and exporting to TIFF and importing. Neither works. The only thing that does work is to save the .NEF as JPG from Capture, then reading that into Photoshop. Surely there is supposed to be a way, I can't imagine everyone is shooting JPG instead of RAW just because of some problem with Photoshop? > However, if > you know how to open a .NEF file with PS7, please let me know. My version of PS7 opens NEF files directly, and pops up a window that lets me twiddle exposure compensation and white balance. As far as I know it's just stock PS7 (Windows). >> However, if >> you know how to open a .NEF file with PS7, please let me know. > > My version of PS7 opens NEF files directly, and pops up a window that lets > me twiddle exposure compensation and white balance. As far as I know it's > just stock PS7 (Windows). It's not. PS7 doesn't support Raw directly. After installing PS, install Nikon View. Nikon view will install the raw converter into PS. > "Doug Payne" <dwpayne@ist.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > After installing PS, install Nikon View. Nikon view will install the raw > converter into PS. Ah, well that explains it. Thanks. (Before I had NV, I didn't have a camera that generated NEF, so I never had the chance to notice that PS7 did or didn't handle NEF files). Thanks. > However, if you know how to open a .NEF file with PS7, please let me > know. You'll want Photoshop CS, which will do it. Nikon Capture is a piece of crap. I would pay for Photoshop over Nikon Capture if the latter were free. NC isn't worth the hard drive space it occupies. > Surely there is supposed to be a way, I can't imagine everyone is > shooting JPG instead of RAW just because of some problem with > Photoshop? Of course not. We're just using software that works.  SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com >You'll want Photoshop CS, which will do it. Nikon Capture is a piece >of crap. I would pay for Photoshop over Nikon Capture if the latter >were free. NC isn't worth the hard drive space it occupies. Why is NC a "piece of crap?" >> You'll want Photoshop CS, which will do it. Nikon Capture is a piece >> of crap. I would pay for Photoshop over Nikon Capture if the latter >> were free. NC isn't worth the hard drive space it occupies. > > Why is NC a "piece of crap?" Well, aside from the sort of problems described, off the top of my head, it isn't very stable; it has a terrible user interface that actually gets in the way of doing things; it isn't as flexible or useful as Camera Raw; and it installs a kernel extension (!) for copy protection, which is totally unacceptable. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com >Well, aside from the sort of problems described, off the top of my head, it >isn't very stable; it has a terrible user interface that actually gets in the >way of doing things; it isn't as flexible or useful as Camera Raw; and it >installs a kernel extension (!) for copy protection, which is totally >unacceptable. Yes, Nikon Capture is a piece of crap and I agree with all your statements. I have to use it to correct the 10.5 mm lens and map out dust spots, otherwise I just open the images through PS CS. >>Well, aside from the sort of problems described, off the top of my head, it >>isn't very stable; it has a terrible user interface that actually gets in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > statements. I have to use it to correct the 10.5 mm lens and map out > dust spots, otherwise I just open the images through PS CS. Been using Nikon Capture for years and think it is a good first step in processing, then going to Photoshop for ebd processing. >>>You'll want Photoshop CS, which will do it. Nikon Capture is a piece >>>of crap. I would pay for Photoshop over Nikon Capture if the latter [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > installs a kernel extension (!) for copy protection, which is totally > unacceptable. Do you know what kind of kernel extensions for copy protection (and what kind of copy protection)? /erik >> Well, aside from the sort of problems described, off the top of my head, it >> isn't very stable; it has a terrible user interface that actually gets in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Do you know what kind of kernel extensions for copy protection (and what > kind of copy protection)? PACE Anti-Piracy. http://www.paceap.com SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com Thanks! A word of warning for those that have PhotoShop CS! Do NOT install Nikon Capture, Nikon View, ACDSee7 - period. There is a RAW processor you will see in PhotoShop CS but it will be limited if you install such software, especially the Nikon stuff. If you already have installed the Nikon software then you must find in your suite of Photoshop files [I forget just which ones except they start with Nikon] and rename them so they are no longer active. Then when you use PhotoShop CS it will give you all the proper functions that you sort of get when you use the "junky" Nikon software. I bought a book entitled Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS. When I got home I realized that the flaky CS interface I had was nothing like what was shown in the book. Like an idiot I took the book back saying it obviously was "in error". Then my step-son computer whiz came over. I told him what was "wrong" and he immediately knew to junk the Nikon files. Anyway, it was then back to Border's to rebuy the book. It's an excellent book [ISBN 0-321-27878-X] if you want full measure of what a properly running PhotoShop CS can do with a RAW "NEF" [at least for D70 owners]. I believe there is a add-on to PhotoShop CS that is a free download from the Adobe site if you got a version of CS that didn't come with the RAW/NEF software plug-in. Anyway, it sure is nice once you get things straightened out. Tom > A word of warning for those that have PhotoShop CS! Do NOT install > Nikon Capture, Nikon View, ACDSee7 - period. There is a RAW processor > you will see in PhotoShop CS but it will be limited if you install such > software, especially the Nikon stuff. You may have to install Nikin View or similar, though -- that is what supplies the libraries that allow many third-party programs (not Adobe) to use NEF files. iView MediaPro, for example, relies on the Nikon libraries to directly support NEF files, I believe. But yes, no matter what you do, you must remove that Nikon plug-in from Photoshop. Also be aware that Nikon View, in its quest to silently ruin your life, also inserts a background program that automatically runs at system startup and stays running all the time -- and does so without mentioning that it's doing so. It really is very unfortunate that you have to install some of this software; Nikon makes good cameras, but really, really, really, really bad software. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com |
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