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http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml At least canon got a mention.. "Most Complete Lens Line (tie): Canon / Nikon" I'm sure the 4/3 bashers aren't going to like this guy..  SignatureStacey > http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm sure the 4/3 bashers aren't going to like this guy.. Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up against a noisy chip. "Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up against a noisy chip. " Good thing everyone here and everywhere else only shoots nighttime clubs scenes and the like. Take a look at most of the galleries on the net. 95% of the images are shot in well-lit areas or outside. So 5% of the time the average person will care about potential noise. However, MANY more should care about mediocre lens quality, a problem that seems to afflict a few mfgs, Olympus not being one of them. That is, unless you pony up at least $1000/ea for higher end lenses, but then your DSLR package just went from $1200 to $2000+. > "Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up > against a noisy chip. " [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > That is, unless you pony up at least $1000/ea for higher end lenses, > but then your DSLR package just went from $1200 to $2000+. Olympus IMHO not going to be a player much longer. They are closing factories (Ohmachi and Sakaki) and laying off (at last count) 4,000 employees to reach 10,000 job cuts by September 2005. Olympus and the 4/3 systems is the APS of the 2000's. > Olympus IMHO not going to be a player much longer. They are closing > factories (Ohmachi and Sakaki) LOL and they were making their low end P&S's there. Just because olympus lost money on the P&S doesn't mean their dSLR's are going anywhere... First if the noise game, then FUD about olympus going under.... And next you'll say "I really couldn't care less what happens.." :-) SignatureStacey >> Olympus IMHO not going to be a player much longer. They are closing >> factories (Ohmachi and Sakaki) > > LOL and they were making their low end P&S's there. Just because olympus > lost money on the P&S doesn't mean their dSLR's are going anywhere... Many low end Olympus P&S are outsource to Sanyo. So perhaps you should do more homework. Olympus had great cameras im the OM-1/OM-2, 3 and 4 they made some great rangefinder RC and RD. The OM mount Zuikos were steller. They fell a sleep and came up with jokes like the OM101 and the OM88 > First if the noise game, then FUD about olympus going under.... Accept the fact Olympus slipped to a second tier maker, due to bad managment decisions. The 4/3 is just another bad choice. None of the major makers jumped on 4/3, maybe they still remember APS. > And next you'll say "I really couldn't care less what happens.." :-) IMHO... Olympus missed the AF boat, and they suffered for it. > The OM mount Zuikos were steller. Interesting that the new ZD's are even better.. Wait that's what this thread is about, their good optics.. Wonder why you jumped in with your FUD post? >> First if the noise game, then FUD about olympus going under.... >> > Accept the fact Olympus slipped to a second tier maker, They've -never- been a "top seller" in any SLR marketplace. > The 4/3 is just another bad choice. None of the major > makers jumped on 4/3, maybe they still remember APS. Maybe they didn't want to share the lens mount? How many "majors" jumped onto the pentax M42 mount? Canon and Nikon sure didn't want any part of that either. Also I suppose you missed panasonic getting on board with olympus with 4/3? The main reason C/N kept their old mounts was so they wouldn't have to do any development work on new optics and keep people buying the film lenses they recovered the development money on YEARS ago. For them to get onboard with 4/3 would require them to develop new optics, why would they want to do that? Time will tell whether all the FUD being spread about by people like you has any validity, just like the intel chip fans did with AMD and still do. I'm sure when the E3 comes out there will be new things to dream up? SignatureStacey > Just because olympus > lost money on the P&S doesn't mean their dSLR's are going anywhere... Very well put. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >> "Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up >> against a noisy chip. " [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >employees to reach 10,000 job cuts by September 2005. Olympus and the 4/3 >systems is the APS of the 2000's. Doesn't mean much. IBM had 410,000 employees in 1987, now they have less than 200,000. They're still around. -Rich > Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up > against a noisy chip. Two actually, also the 50-200 DonB > Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up > against a noisy chip. Actually, because it was matched up against some of the very best "L" and "ED" lenses the big guys have ever made. Well done Olympus! That's nice recognition. Rob >> http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Why because Olympus managed to get one winner? Too bad it's matched up > against a noisy chip. Actually, 'tis two winners, best digital zoom and best overall lens line quality. One award not given that Oly might have won, too, was highest average priced digital lens line... SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >>> http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > quality. One award not given that Oly might have won, too, was highest > average priced digital lens line... You have a point, the glass is pricey. Imagine Canon introducing the Rebel/RebelXT and only offering "L-series" lenses for it. >>>> http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >You have a point, the glass is pricey. Imagine Canon introducing the >Rebel/RebelXT and only offering "L-series" lenses for it. But neither Olympus nor Canon did that. There are still inexpensive Olympus zooms. However, if Canon did do it, no one would be shooting pictures with lenses that can't hope to keep up to what the sensors are capable of. -Rich > You have a point, the glass is pricey. Imagine Canon introducing the > Rebel/RebelXT and only offering "L-series" lenses for it. Imagine canon selling a rebel with a decent kit lens, wait how about selling it with 2 decent kit lenses? :-) Nah that's not going to happen... SignatureStacey >> You have a point, the glass is pricey. Imagine Canon introducing the >> Rebel/RebelXT and only offering "L-series" lenses for it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Stacey Olympus is so worried that they are giving customers the 40-150MM 3.5/4.5 for free when you buy the E300. But it's still hard to sell the camera as the ergonomics are bad. > http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml > > At least canon got a mention.. > > "Most Complete Lens Line (tie): Canon / Nikon" Most innovative Lens for DSLRs > I'm sure the 4/3 bashers aren't going to like this guy.. More than just one... And nobody's bashing the lenses, just the sensor... SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >> http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Most innovative Lens for DSLRs Yep missed that one.. SignatureStacey >>> http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-june-05.shtml >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yep missed that one.. Possibly because even I'm not sure that one is justified. Canon's DSLR specific IS vs. Oly's DSLR specific f2 zooms? I'm not sure which is more innovative... SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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