>Interestingly enough, images from 20Ds contain more "damaged data" than
>the 10D images did. Despite high level approaches to Canon over this
>oddity, there is no information forthcoming from them on the subject.
And the EOS 350D is even worse than the 20D in this respect.
SNIP
> According to Canon's information regarding 10D images applying an
> unsharp mask at 300% with 0.2 radius will offset the effects of
> their anti-alias filter. 20Ds have less aggressive anti-alias (to
> their detriment IMO) and may achieve the same results at 200%
The problem with generalizations, like this one, is that it is a
generalization and that doesn't take the combined "lens + AA-filter +
sensor sampling density" MTF into consideration. The amount:300%,
Radius:0.3 (!) sharpening suggestion I saw for the 1D series doesn't
look too bad (even though there is room for improvement with more
tuned approaches, based on Point Spread Functions and MTFs).
> Interestingly enough, images from 20Ds contain more "damaged data"
> than the 10D images did.
In relation to the topic at hand, I don't see that confirmed in my MTF
measurements (unless one relies on in camera JPEG conversions alone,
or disregards the larger number of pixels which requires slightly less
magnification). I do see differences between various Raw converter
results (DPP with a Sharpening set to 4 or 5 looks technically very
good (assuming no resizing is needed) compared to the alternatives).
> Despite high level approaches to Canon over this oddity, there is no
> information forthcoming from them on the subject.
???
> My own opinion is that the increased pixel density of the newer
> sensor splats the image over a larger sample of pixels than the
> earlier on did.
Correct, but that is an advantage because it gives more control over
the somewhat oversampled (relative to the 10D) image.
> I know I can get big enlargements clearer, from 10D files shot in
> winter than from 20D ones taken in high summer.
Something doesn't sound right, unless the thermal difference causes
issues (which it does for noise).
> There must be significant image degradation as the temperature rises
> towards 40c - the maximum environment temperature for 20Ds. A
> themometer inside the battery case said it was 43c when the outside
> temperature was 39c. I would think attention to keeping a (Canon)
> camera cool will produce more gain than killing the anti-alias
> filter.
The temperature factor causing more noise (general physics at work),
is quite a different issue than low-pass filtering (human intervention
at work). I wouldn't know how to rate the difference other than in a
rather subjective way ...
Bart
Lester Wareham - 27 May 2005 19:46 GMT
> SNIP
>> According to Canon's information regarding 10D images applying an unsharp
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> (DPP with a Sharpening set to 4 or 5 looks technically very good (assuming
> no resizing is needed) compared to the alternatives).
......
> at work). I wouldn't know how to rate the difference other than in a
> rather subjective way ...
>
> Bart
Apparently DPP uses edge sharpening (I think this is where you detect the
edges with a high pass filter, blur then use this to mask the unsharp mask
operation), this might be the same thing as smart sharpening.