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Ansel Adams exhibit
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Neil Gould - 16 Aug 2007 20:18 GMT I don't know why I put off visiting the Ansel Adams exhibit at the Cleveland Institute of Art for so long. The Meredith family collection of 110 of Adams' prints is truly amazing. Seeing many of the prints in person that I have in books was quite an eye-opener. The books do not do these prints justice! Unfortunately, the exhibit closes after Sunday, but if anyone is in the area that hasn't yet seen this, I strongly recommend that it is an opportunity that shouldn't be missed.
Neil
Lawrence Akutagawa - 16 Aug 2007 20:31 GMT >I don't know why I put off visiting the Ansel Adams exhibit at the > Cleveland Institute of Art for so long. The Meredith family collection of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > anyone is in the area that hasn't yet seen this, I strongly recommend that > it is an opportunity that shouldn't be missed. I always encourage those expressing the least bit of interest in photoraphy to visit their local art museums displaying traditional black and white silver gelatine images. The commercial reproduction process really does those images no justice at all. And it's not just the books and magazines, but now the computer.
An interesting exercise, should any have the opportunity, is to visit the Ansel Adams gallery at Yosemite Village in Yosemite National Park. Adams has in his will left about 24 original negatives of images taken in the park by him over the years with instructions that prints from them be made available to the public at reasonable cost rather than the thousands commanded by his other prints. Over the years, that "reasonable cost" has increased to today's $175. But that still is "reasonable" for an "original" Adams print.
http://www.anseladams.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=9
The recommendation should you purchase one in person (as versus over the net) is to go when there is no crowd - early in the day on a weekday morning is best. Once you determine which image you want, politely ask the clerk to see 3, possibly 4, prints of that image. You'll probably get some push back, but they will accede to your request if you persist...after all, with no other patrons about, they don't have much of anything else to do. Now lay those images on the counter side by side and study them carefully. You will see differences among them because they are individually handmade. Some will have more detail in the shadows, others more in the highlights. The differences may be subtle, but they are there. Contrast that with the machine reproductions that go for about $20 apiece...each is exactly as the others.
By the way, at Stanford University is currently an exhibit of images by Yosemite photographers.
http://museum.stanford.edu/news_room/Yosemite.html
Bogdan Karasek - 16 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT Hi,
I saw the exhibit when it was the Art Gallery of Ontario last winter. It is well worth the trip. It is mind boggling to see "Half Dome", Canyon del Chelly" or "Moon Rise over Hernandez" in the flesh so to speak, at their actual size. It's when you see them at their actual size that you can the incredible detail in the photos. I had a large magnifying glass with me and was better able to appreciate the detail; then you stand back and appreciate the grandeur of the photo. It was also interesting to see his early stuff. There's a different AA at work here. Actually, I prefer some of his early stuff to the grandiose that he printed later. There are also negs that were printed at different times, early style (different paper) and the later grandiose style.
A must see exhibit if you have the chance. You'll never get another chance to see that many Ansel Adams prints in one space at the same time.
Be prepared for information overload. I had to go back a second time to soak it all in. Just too much for one visit.
Enjoy!
Bogdan
> I don't know why I put off visiting the Ansel Adams exhibit at the > Cleveland Institute of Art for so long. The Meredith family collection of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Neil
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Neil Gould - 17 Aug 2007 16:40 GMT Recently, Bogdan Karasek <bkarasek@videotron.ca> posted:
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > printed at different times, early style (different paper) and the > later grandiose style. I would have as hard a time picking out a favorite as Tom Meridith. Unfortunately, I'd never be in the position to "just buy them all", as he did! ;-)
The shots taken in the period of 1944-47 immediately grabbed my attention, though the others were every bit as worthy of attention. Definitely input overload!
One thing I wondered about; there is a portrait of Edward Weston taken in the late 1920's (~1927). The exposure was difficult and exquisitely handled. It was mentioned that Adams used a spot meter for the shot, but I presume it wasn't a Weston at that early date? ;-) What spot meters were available during that time period?
Neil
Nicholas O. Lindan - 17 Aug 2007 22:37 GMT > One thing I wondered about; there is a portrait of Edward Weston taken in > the late 1920's (~1927). The exposure was difficult and exquisitely > handled. It was mentioned that Adams used a spot meter for the shot, but I > presume it wasn't a Weston at that early date? ;-) What spot meters were > available during that time period? SEI photometer: http://www.shutterbug.net/techniques/lighting/1002sb_thesei/ http://www.kcbx.net/~mhd/2photo/film/expose/sei.htm
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Neil Gould - 18 Aug 2007 11:01 GMT Recently, Nicholas O. Lindan <see@sig.com> posted:
>> One thing I wondered about; there is a portrait of Edward Weston >> taken in the late 1920's (~1927). The exposure was difficult and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > http://www.shutterbug.net/techniques/lighting/1002sb_thesei/ > http://www.kcbx.net/~mhd/2photo/film/expose/sei.htm Thanks, Nicholas!
The SEI looks like an ingenious device! However, the first reference puts its date of manufacture well after the photo of Weston was taken.
Neil
Nicholas O. Lindan - 18 Aug 2007 14:26 GMT > The SEI looks like an ingenious device! However, the first reference puts > its date of manufacture well after the photo of Weston was taken. There is always the obvious solution to the conundrum: the original premise is in error and the photo was taken after 1935 and/or it didn't involve a spotmeter.
Walk down the hall to the library...
Adams, A.; The Making of 40 Photographs, pp. 144-145:
"Edward Weston, Carmel Highlands, California, c. 1940"
The type of meter isn't mentioned but as he carries on about metering the highlight on EW's forehead it's odds-on it is a spotmeter.
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Neil Gould - 18 Aug 2007 15:24 GMT Recently, Nicholas O. Lindan <see@sig.com> posted:
>> The SEI looks like an ingenious device! However, the first reference >> puts its date of manufacture well after the photo of Weston was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The type of meter isn't mentioned but as he carries on about metering > the highlight on EW's forehead it's odds-on it is a spotmeter. Seems the likely resolution to the issue, and not the only error in the exhibit. One image had a date of printing one year before the photo was taken! Surely, Adams had vision, but...
Neil
Jean-David Beyer - 18 Aug 2007 18:04 GMT >> The SEI looks like an ingenious device! However, the first reference puts >> its date of manufacture well after the photo of Weston was taken. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The type of meter isn't mentioned but as he carries on about metering the > highlight on EW's forehead it's odds-on it is a spotmeter. I am not sure about the meter, but in one of his books, probably "The Negative," he says that when it is possible, you can walk up to the subject and meter it even with a Weston Master 5 (or something like that) that has about a 5 degree field which is slightly spotty. But that may have been Fred Picker's version of it.
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Nicholas O. Lindan - 18 Aug 2007 18:31 GMT > I am not sure about the meter, but in one of his books, probably "The > Negative," he says that when it is possible, you can walk up to the > subject > and meter it even with a Weston Master 5 (or something like that) that has > about a 5 degree field ... It's the Weston Ranger 9 that has a viewfinder and semi-kinda-almost 18 degree spot. The 'Master' series are selenium cells with a fly's-eye grid and a 50(?) degree angle.
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David Nebenzahl - 18 Aug 2007 19:29 GMT On 8/18/2007 11:29 AM Nicholas O. Lindan spake thus:
>> I am not sure about the meter, but in one of his books, probably "The >> Negative," he says that when it is possible, you can walk up to the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 18 degree spot. The 'Master' series are selenium cells with a fly's-eye > grid and a 50(?) degree angle. Looks to me like those "fly's eye" (good analogy) lenses would have quite a bit wider field than that even. More like 90° or more.
Jean-David Beyer - 18 Aug 2007 21:35 GMT >> I am not sure about the meter, but in one of his books, probably "The >> Negative," he says that when it is possible, you can walk up to the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 18 degree spot. The 'Master' series are selenium cells with a fly's-eye > grid and a 50(?) degree angle. You are right, it IS the Ranger 9 I was thinking of. It claims to have 18° field of view, which is somewhat narrower than the typical 30° of other meters of the time. I guess it was Fred Picker who modified it to have a 5° field of view. IIRC, you had to set the film speed 2 stops up to make it work.
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David Kuss - 20 Aug 2007 00:54 GMT http://www.eastmanhouse.org/exhibits/container_62/index.php
The Eastman House, Rochester NY, has an exhibit of 150 of AA's stuff, now through Sept 3.
I'm hoping to get there next Wednesday - I'm only about 150 miles away.
DK
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