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Kodak Ektachrome E-3 and E-4 stability data

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kolgrimr@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 02:28 GMT
Folks,

I'm a grad student and my area of research is digital restoratioin of
colour slides and photographs. I'm trying to find information on dye
fading stability of Kodak Ektachrome colour transparency films,
particularly processes E-3 and E-4.

Ideally I'd like to find some data how C, M, and Y dye densities
change with time, as well as time-based changes in side absorption.

I'm not sure if Kodak has ever published anyting on the topic - all I
found was a publication on process E-6 stability (Kodak Publication
E-106), which I'm trying to track down. I'm curious if anyone knows of
any other published data - I'm sure someone at some point has
conducted light- and dark-fading tests on Kodak films and I'd really
like to find this data.

thanks,

Dennis
Richard Knoppow - 30 Mar 2007 03:17 GMT
> Folks,
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> Dennis

  The following sites may have useful information:

The Image Permanence Institute of The Rochester Institute of
Technology
http://www.imagepermanenceinstitute.org

The American Institute for the Conservation of Historic and
Artistic Works at: http://aic.stanford.edu/

Conservation On Line site at:
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu

Also, if you are in the USA call Kodak's customer service
number 1 800 242 2424 and ask for extension 19, the
professional group. They might be able to guide you to Kodak
sources and possibly other sources. There are many other
sources but these should get you started.

  There is a very large body of literature on the
permanence of photographic color materials. The motion
picture industry especially has been very interested in this
for years. You are probably going to have to do some
old-fashioned research at a good university library in
addition to the web stuff. A good source for motion picture
oriented articles is:
_The Journal of the Society of Motion Picture and Television
Engineers_.

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darkroommike - 19 Apr 2007 16:31 GMT
Google Henry Wilhelm he's done a lot of research on dye
stability not sure how much pertains to E-3 and E-4 but his
book on color print stability was a landmark when published.
darkroommike

>> Folks,
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> _The Journal of the Society of Motion Picture and Television
> Engineers_.
Adam - 22 Apr 2007 17:21 GMT
> I'm trying to find information on dye
> fading stability of Kodak Ektachrome colour transparency films,
> particularly processes E-3 and E-4.

This is totally unscientific, but yesterday I was looking through some
of my father's slides from 1959-1961, vacations and parties and such.
Most of the Ektachromes have turned into something almost like
monochrome, varying intensities of reddish-brown.  A few rolls of
Ektachrome have held up better and one can still guess at the original
colors... not sure why those particular rolls held up better than the
rest.  All the Kodachromes still look great, bright natural colors.  All
of these were shot on commercially available 35mm amateur film (on a
Kodak Retina Reflex if anyone cares), processed by Kodak (probably at
Fair Lawn, NJ), and have been stored in identical plastic pages away
from light at "typical" household temperature and humidity.  I don't
know which Ektachrome process was in use at that time.

Adam
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David Nebenzahl - 22 Apr 2007 20:01 GMT
Adam spake thus:

>> I'm trying to find information on dye fading stability of Kodak
>> Ektachrome colour transparency films, particularly processes E-3
>> and E-4.
>
> This is totally unscientific, [...]

[snip empirical data]

Unscientific, maybe, but extremely useful information, I'd say.

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