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Speed point of color negative?

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Steven Woody - 21 Jan 2007 15:35 GMT
hi,

i'v already know the speed of a B&W negative is 0.8/H, where H is the
exposure in lux-seconds which yieds film density of 0.1 above the
density of film base plus fog.   but, how about if consider color
negative?  you see the problem, there are three dye for a color
negative. should to measure the overall dendity with all dyes add up?
and, is the magic number still 0.1?

thanks.

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woody
Richard Knoppow - 23 Jan 2007 00:33 GMT
> hi,
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> woody

    Each type of film has a specific ISO speed standard.
The one most of us are familiar with applies only to B&W
negative for use in still cameras. Negative for motion
picture use is measured by a different standard.
    I don't have a copy of the current standard for color
negative film but there is at least a partial description in
(1). This states that the speed is measured by finding the
log of the exposure in lux-seconds for the "minimum useful
density", given as 0.15, for the Status-M green curve and
the lowest of the three curves (usually red) and averaging
them. The speed is then:
Speed = 1/Hm x 1.5
    My reference does not state if there is a specified
gamma for the measurement but color negative films generally
have a gamma of around 0.5 to 0.6.
    Note that the Log density of 0.1 is not exactly the
speed point for B&W. The ISO standard includes a 1.5X
multiplier. This is to move the minimum exposure up the toe
to a point where the toe gradient is sufficient to provide
good shadow detail. The B&W standard specifies processing
conditions which are not standardized as they are for color.
I expect the color standard probably also has some
specification for dye density range and gamma.

1, _Photographic Materials and Processes_ First edition,
Stroebel, Compton, Current, Zakia  Boston, 1986, The Focal
Press ISBN 0-240-51752-0

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Steven Woody - 23 Jan 2007 01:39 GMT
> > hi,
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> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@ix.netcom.com

thank you for the rich information!

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woody
 
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