newbie toning/spotting question

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Mike Marty - 06 Oct 2003 22:47 GMT

If I want to tone dried prints (with Kodak Brown toner), should I re-wash
them for awhile?

What if I already spotted the print? Will the black spots look out of
place now?

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Ken Hart - 07 Oct 2003 01:50 GMT

> If I want to tone dried prints (with Kodak Brown toner), should I re-wash
> them for awhile?
>
> What if I already spotted the print? Will the black spots look out of
> place now?

Second question: Depending on the spotting solution, it may wash off leaving
you with a print that needs to be spotted (with a spotting solution that
more closely matches the toned print). Will the black spots look out of
place? Depends on your point of view(!), but probably.

Ken

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Richard Knoppow - 07 Oct 2003 07:33 GMT

> If I want to tone dried prints (with Kodak Brown toner), should I re-wash
> them for awhile?
>
> What if I already spotted the print? Will the black spots look out of
> place now?

Soak the prints for a few minutes to wet the emulsion. This will
insure even toning.
If you've used Spot-Tone or some other dye for spotting the dye will
tend to wash out during toning. You will have to respot but since the
color has changed that's not a problem.

Kodak Brown Toner can work pretty fast with some papers at the
recommended 100F temperature. Check with a scrap print. It can be used
at cooler temperatures to slow it down, even at room temperature if
you want just slight toning.
Remember to use a "stop bath" of 10% sodium sulfite after toning.
Otherwise it will continue to tone in the wash. Two minutes in the
sulfite will eliminate this.

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Michael Scarpitti - 07 Oct 2003 14:20 GMT

> > If I want to tone dried prints (with Kodak Brown toner), should I re-wash
> > them for awhile?
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> Otherwise it will continue to tone in the wash. Two minutes in the
> sulfite will eliminate this.

I have had good luck using very soft pencil (#0 or #1) in spotting,
instead of the liquids. The pencil can controlled more accurately, and
it won't wash out. Toning would require obviously colored pencils, and
that might present problems in color matching.

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