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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / October 2006Life Cycle of a Photographer
I think the life cycle is all backwards. You should start out dead; just get it right out of the way. You wake up in a senior care facility and start feeling better every day. You get kicked out of there for being too healthy, go collect your pension, then, when you start work, you get a gold watch on your first day. You work 40 years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement. You drink alcohol, you party, you're "generally" promiscuous and you get ready for High School. After High School, you go to primary school, you become a kid, you play or nap all day, you have no responsibilities. You become a baby with no cares whatsoever. Then, you spend your last 9 months floating peacefully with luxuries like central heating, spa treatments, room service on tap, larger living quarters everyday...and then... you finish off as an orgasm! It would have to be better that way ... because getting old .. just plain sucks  SignatureReality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com Greg "_" spake thus: > I think the life cycle is all backwards. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > because getting old .. just plain sucks OK, OK, you sold me! Now tell me how to do this. What drug can I take that will make all this happen? Signature"In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the population into concentration camps and turn the country into a wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do that. Let ME do it.'" - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost Authority." On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:20:02 -0400, "Greg \"_\"" <grey_egg@greg_photo.com> wrote: >because getting old .. just plain sucks October 16, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick, I transplanted one lonely bit of garden foliage for Natalie yesterday, which meant digging one hole and lifting one plant with dirt ball. It's now twenty-four hours later and my back hurts (sucks), and I want the whole world to know about it! And to top it off it's two (2) degrees outside right now. Actually, I think getting old complains ... But, to veer back on-topic, the older I get the older my file of pictures gets. The people in the earlier ones are getting ore and ,ore interested, too, -- as they age! As I age, I find more and more good, interesting, well-composed, and, in particular, meaningful images in my file as look through them. I think our ability as visual artists increases as we age, due to increased experience at life. It's quite possible our best material is overlooked and passed over because we ourselves are too immature to recognize them at first. I suppose depth comes with age, not just death, eh? regards, --le ________________________________ Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. website: www.heylloyd.com telephone: 416-686-0326 email: portrait@heylloyd.com ________________________________ -- It's funny because my partner and I had that conversation around two years ago; about that what if, what if life is backwards, you grow young instead of growing old. Who knows, may be in another planet outside our galaxy, life backwards is a norm. Well, may be, instead of thinking of being old, think of being ageless. You know what, it could actually be a very good topic for a photo essay- - the process of aging. >On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:20:02 -0400, "Greg >\"_\"" <grey_egg@greg_photo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >________________________________ >-- Signature+Shakti V. > It's funny because my partner and I had that conversation > around two years ago; about that what if, what if life is > backwards, you grow young instead of growing old. Who > knows, maybe in another planet outside our galaxy, life > backwards is a norm. If time ran backwards then thoughts would run backwards and we wouldn't notice we are going in reverse, everything would appear normal. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com >we wouldn't notice we are going in reverse, everything would >appear normal. October 18, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick, So we could be bassakwards right now, and not know it. Why are we able to have the conviction that this is the case, and that things are very wrong?? regards, --le > "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > know it. Why are we able to have the > conviction that this is [not?] the case It does seem to be a problem imaging that consciousness can run backwards. Or that light _does_ come from the eyes and illuminate the scene [I think someone claimed that, Aristotle?]. I think it all means time _can't_ run backwards, no matter which way it runs, it is running forward. > ... things are very wrong?? Very right. Very right that things are very wrong, almost to the point where it is right to be wrong and wrong is right. Ah, sophomore year, a case of beer ... SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com > I think it all means time _can't_ run backwards, no matter > which way it runs, it is running forward. Time/space is being created (the universe is expanding) at the speed of light (c), therefore nothing can go faster than the speed at which space is being created. The converse is true - nothing can travel -c so the past is inaccessible... but read on. > Ah, sophomore year, a case of beer ... There might be another space/time (speaking of Plato) that is accessible by certain living things - specifically at the nanotubes which are part of the cytoskeleton. There is a theory that the inner conformation of the nanotube is small enough to sustain a quantum state which translates to the nanotube's outer elements, which in turn communicate to the biomechanism. So it seems possible that amidst the billions of nanotubules acting to the billions of neurons might be a key to "mind" or consciousness. Even the single-cell omeba which has no brain, no nervous system whatsoever has intelligent behavior, a primitive intelligence, via the nanotubules. Now... to lighten up a bit... is not B&W film made with gelatin? Gelatin cells have the above ... but they are all squashed up and dead. Darn. I thought I had an argument for film vs. digital. -- Use the four-letter F-word without shame. F I L M ! j (pico) > There might be another space/time (speaking of Plato) that is accessible > by certain living things - specifically at the nanotubes which are part of > the cytoskeleton. There is a theory that the inner conformation of the > nanotube is small enough to sustain a quantum state which translates to > the nanotube's outer elements, which in turn communicate to the > biomechanism. You have read Penrose, I see. It's the best theory I've seen of how the mind works but I think the whole 'nanotube' thing is just overcomplication. Plain old Brownian motion will do. Proteins just wander around until they bump into something and ask "Hey, you wanna hook up?" The where and the when of it are quite at random. [Yeah, yeah, Van der Waals, polar attraction and all that other stuff aside] > It seems possible that amidst the billions of nanotubules acting to the > billions of neurons might be a key to "mind" or consciousness. Even the > single-cell omeba which has no brain, no nervous system whatsoever has > intelligent behavior, a primitive intelligence, via the nanotubules. The source of all randomness is quantum events, the "seething quantum vacuum" of pop-sci fame, and if the quanta pop in and out of our universe they must be someplace else when they aren't here. It is not hard to believe that whatever is responsible for mind isn't all -here- and there is some part that is in a -there- that is everywhere but can't be pointed to. Viz. 'Flatland'. Given that, any deterministic system, as say a computer and software, is the farthest thing from 'intelligent' that can ever be. May as well wait for a book's characters to pop into existence. So much for Artificial Intelligence. Knowledge, though useful, is dead. Photos are dead too, for that matter. Until a fungus attacks the gelatin and possibly creates something interesting that has never been before. Aha! Film -IS- better: just need add more nutrients to the gelatin. Maybe UC is right and it isn't art unless it 'lives'? SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com >where it is right to be wrong and wrong is >right. October 18, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick, That was Richard Nixon, right? "We had to destroy the village to save it." Or maybe it was George Bush. He's pretty right, too, eh ... regards, --le > Or maybe it was George Bush. He's pretty > right, too, eh ... > > regards, > --le Witch Bush? SignatureReality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com Nicholas O. Lindan spake thus: >>It's funny because my partner and I had that conversation >>around two years ago; about that what if, what if life is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > we wouldn't notice we are going in reverse, everything would > appear normal. .os kniht t'nod I ?esrevinu "rorrim" siht ni meht dnatsrednu ot elba eb ew dluow tuB SignatureJust as McDonald's is where you go when you're hungry but don't really care about the quality of your food, Wikipedia is where you go when you're curious but don't really care about the quality of your knowledge. - Matthew White's WikiWatch (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm) >Nicholas O. Lindan spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >.os kniht t'nod I ?esrevinu "rorrim" siht ni meht dnatsrednu ot elba eb >ew dluow tuB Da Vinci here, huh. I guess, if life is backwards, then we think backwards, and speak backwards, then we'd understand each other even if our scripts are backwards, because backwards in that backward world will be the norm. It wouldn't even be called backwards. Life in the universe should reach contraction before life could go backwards. But the universe is still expanding. Still, it's nice to muse about it. Signature+Shakti V. > If time ran backwards then thoughts would run backwards and > we wouldn't notice we are going in reverse, everything would > appear normal. how would you know :) ? SignatureReality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com |
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