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William Mortensen, Ansel Adams, Robert Balcomb
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Lloyd Erlick - 31 May 2006 15:29 GMT I'm sure others have already seen it but I just found it ... (wonderful essay!) --le
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... In 1956-57 I spent upwards to a year with William Mortensen in Laguna Beach, California, learning his philosophies and techniques, both of which I have loyally practiced for over forty years as a portrait photographer. Mr. Mortensen had developed his own techniques of lighting the subject, determining the exposure, developing the film, and making the print. At every step, he ran afoul of the Group f/64 headed by Ansel Adams, who believed that there should be no "manipulation" in either developing the film or making the print. It would seem that this philosophy itself would eliminate photography from the consideration of Art, by their own arguments. ...
... application of "Schnitt" would easily determine between a print with good composition and one without. ...
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Richard Knoppow - 31 May 2006 18:57 GMT > I'm sure others have already seen it but I > just found it ... (wonderful essay!) [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > http://www.thescreamonline.com/essays/essays06-01/rsb_photo_essay.html An interesting essay. Mortensen did not always practice what he preached. Much of his darkroom work (and a good deal of the writing in his books) was done by a fellow named George Dunham, who also appears in some images as a model. Dunham certainly knew conventional sensitometry because there is a good section on it in Mortensen's book on the negative. Adams certainly manipulated prints and describes it in his books. I think what Adams and others objected to in Mortensen's work were prints which were so heavily worked over that they were not really photographs any more. It is interesting that Mortensen's work was also found unacceptable by many "pictorialist" photographers of the time, who also indulged in extensive modification of images. I think it may have been Mortensen's peculiar style, particularly the somewhat grotesque images he liked to produce. I also think Mortensen may have been too sexy for them. A lot of Mortensen's images were pretty kitchy but he nonetheless had a unique style that others were never able to quite copy. I find his stuff quite fascinating. Mortensen also made a lot of three color carbro prints which disappeared after his death. There is a rumor that George Dunham stole them and put his own name on them. It is likely that he actually made the prints. There are details of some of Mortensen's special effects, like Abrasion Tone, on Dick Sullivan's web site at http://www.bostick-sullivan.com
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Richard Knoppow - 01 Jun 2006 00:38 GMT >> I'm sure others have already seen it but I >> just found it ... (wonderful essay!) [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> composition and one without. >> ... After re-reading this. I think what he calls Schnitt really refers to Dynamic Symmetry, a system of pictorial composition based proportions developed from a logarythmic spiral. Dynamic Symmetry was popularized by a writer named Jay Hambridge. His book is still available in reprint. Dynamic Symmetry was taken up by the pictorialist photographic movement of the 1920s and later. While some of it makes sense it is not a fixed rule of nature as some of its promoters suggested. There is a pretty good article on Dynamic Symmetry at: http://www.spirasolaris.ca/hambidge1a.html
Mortensen also boosted what he called development to gamma infinity. Gamma is a measure of contrast. Of course, there is no such thing as gamma infinity, that is, unless you want a picture that is either black or white with an infinitesimal threshold. Process film comes pretty close. What Moretensen really was doing was underexposing and overdeveloping using a technique of stand development which resulted in a fairly steep shoulder on the negative, i.e., reduced highlight contrast. This is bad practice and makes no sense when one understands the sensitometry of film and the principles of tone rendition. Such a method would result in lack of shadow detail and a rather distorted gray scale.
The is something called gamma infinity but it really means developing until the most exposed parts of the image reach the full maximum density the material is capable of. This is common practice with prints or reversal materials but hardly ever done for negatives. On a negative it would result in the highest contrast the material could produce.
What I suspect is that Mortensen either did not actually use this method in practice, or else relied on very extensive modification of tone rendition on his prints by means of hand work: essentially drawing a picture on top of the photographic image. Certainly, the exposition of the principles of sensitometry and tone rendition in his book on negatives suggests that either he, or George Dunham, who did most of the actual writing and darkroom work, understood them pretty well. However, one of Mortensen's characteristics was to make things just a little mysterious. I don't consider him to be either a great technician or a great artist; rather, he was something of a mountebank, but produced some fascinating work nonetheless.
There is a fair amount of biographical data about Mortensen on the web. A Google search will find it.
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Alan Smithee - 01 Jun 2006 00:20 GMT OK. So he exposed for highlight and printed for shadow. I guess it depends where he put the highlights. Maybe he was just a contrarian. The rest sounds like he just pulled development and then used stand development. Is this a common technique? Does it achieve a particular sensitometric curve? Surely it's measurable. You know, all things considered, I kind of like the look he achieved. Ironic perhaps best describes it.
Richard Knoppow - 01 Jun 2006 03:10 GMT > OK. So he exposed for highlight and printed for shadow. I > guess it depends [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of like the look he > achieved. Ironic perhaps best describes it. I think this is not quite right. Mortensen exposed for highlights and _developed_ for shadows. This increases contrast and loses shadow detail. He recommended stand developing, even for a day. I am skeptical that he actually did this.
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arraga@gmail.com - 01 Jun 2006 21:16 GMT > I think this is not quite right. Mortensen exposed for > highlights and _developed_ for shadows. This increases > contrast and loses shadow detail. He recommended stand > developing, even for a day. I am skeptical that he actually > did this. Reading the article, it seems that he wanted maximum separation in the highlights. So, if you have a film with an early shoulder, you'll want to underexpose enough to keep the highlights in the straight portion of the D-H curve, and stop them from bumping into each other in the shoulder.
Your shadows will be underexposed and deep black (what he calls 'chiaroscuro', probably), so the extra development would have been necesary to:
a) Lift the low values somewhat, and extract whatever detail in the shadows he could. b) Expand the low density range of the negative; he's essentialy throwing away the highlights region, and applying extra development to compensate. This results in heightened local contrast.
So, you'd end with prints with rembrandt-like shadows, very good gradation in the highlights, and good local contrast everywhere.
Modern films have a much later shoulder, I believe, and that, coupled with modern VC papers would make his technique unnecesary. I'd just underexpose, and print on hard grade paper.
Richard Knoppow - 03 Jun 2006 08:58 GMT >> I think this is not quite right. Mortensen exposed >> for [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > I'd just > underexpose, and print on hard grade paper. I don't know when Mortensen began to recommend underexposing but films even as early as the 1940s had pretty good density range, well beyond what can be printed on a reflection print. I have no idea what he thought he was doing. The characteristics of at least Kodak film was published back to the 1930's. Kodak Labs did extensive research into sensitometry as basic science needed in the production of film and paper. Probably the best known papers are by Lloyd A. Jones and various associates. Jones began research into tone rendition in the 1920s and devised the system of speed measurement used internally by Kodak from about the mid 1930's. This system was adopted, with some changes, as the first ASA speed system in 1943. Jones was interested in how film was used in practice and his speed system was based on obtaining good shadow detail rather than finding the theoretical maximum speed, which was what most of the earlier systems did. In a landmark paper on tone reproduction published in the mid 1940's Jones detailed an extensive project to discover what the minimum exposure for "excellent" prints was. He decided that setting the deepest shadow that was to have any detail should be on the toe where the contrast was not less than 1/3rd that of the straight line portion. He further found that increased exposure, up to several stops, made no difference in the tone rendition of the print, once the minimum was passed. Unfortunately, the ASA, perhaps at Kodak's urging, included a 2X safety factor in the speeds resulting in overly dense negatives. When the second ASA sytem was adopted in 1958 this safety factor was dropped so all film speeds doubled overnight! My point here is that there is substantial evidence that films of the 1940's had plenty of overexposure latitude and not much problem from running into the shoulder in any sort of normal pictorial photography. It is quite possible that much earlier films did have such problems. The improvement of film throught the 1930's and 1940's was tremendous. One evidence of this is motion pictures. Assuming you can see and hear a print that is actually representitive of the time, you will find that both photographic quality and sound quality improved very quickly from about 1930 to about 1940. This was partly due to several discoveries about sensitization, allowing finer grain and higher speed, but there were other factors as well, for instance gelatin formulation and new ways of hardening the emulsion. In any case, I stand by my judgement that the method of "gamma infinity" development Mortensen preached probably did not work very well at the time and certainly is of no more than historical interest now. I don't know if any of Mortensen's books have been reprinted. If so, they are worth reading there really is some good stuff in them. The original editions have become rare and quite expensive. Some libraries may have them available. However, the man was mostly a charlatan, albeit a talented one. Some details of Mortensen's "Abrasion Tone" print finishing process can be found at the Bostick & Sullivan site at: http://bostick-sullivan.com Another process he used often is the paper negative process. This is not hard to do and RC paper works fine for both the paper positives and negatives. It produces interesting prints and can be used for very extensive retouching and modification of prints.
 Signature --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com
Zuan Carreño - 21 Jun 2006 18:49 GMT Mortensen's books quite expensive? US 14 is expensive? are you kidding? http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=698182508 http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=708359376
Mortensen a charlatan? You must be a Master of Photography to do a statement like that. LOL
William Mortensen Is The Master of Softlight:
http://www.thescreamonline.com/photo/photo06-01/mortensen/mortensen_images.html
http://thispublicaddress.com/tPA4/archives/photo_history/william_mortensen/
The Story of William Mortensen, Part I by Larry Lytle: http://www.thescreamonline.com/photo/photo06-01/mortensen/commandtolook1.html The Story of William Mortensen, Part II by Larry Lytle: http://www.thescreamonline.com/photo/photo08-01/mortensen/index.html The Story of William Mortensen, Part III by Larry Lytle: http://www.thescreamonline.com/photo/photo2-2/mortensen/index.html
The world cannot forget the name William Mortensen because his name will go down in history as the Michelangelo of Photography. Due to his approach-both technically and philosophically in opposition to straight or purist adherents-he is amongst the most problematic figures in photography in the twentieth-century.
Article in Photographic Society of America Journal; 6/1/1997: http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfree.asp?DOCID=1G1:19524138&num=3&ctrlInfo=Ro und20%3AMode20b%3ASR%3AResult&ao=&FreePremium=BOTH&tab=lib
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