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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / April 2006*ping*
Anyone home ? > Anyone home ? Nope. They've all moved to APUG. www.apug.org 12,038 and counting... >> Anyone home ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 12,038 and counting... And many other web forums and e-mail mailing lists. Too bad, the dilution has also meant fragmenting of the photo community. I think many users got fed up with the problems of Usenet although this and the large-format group have always been quite well behaved. The moderated forums and lists do not have trouble with uncontrolled flame wars and spam which makes them attractive to many. APUG, to which I subscribe, has devided its catagories too much IMO. For instance, there are several darkroom groups, one for large format, another for 35mm, another for printing, another for contact printing. There are often subjects which are of interest to subscribers in more than one catagory so one must keep track of several to know what is going on. The rec.photo groups are also catagorized but much more broadly. I used to follow several of the rec.photo groups but now read only darkroom and large-format partly because I haven't time to look at more and partly because the content has thinned out pretty much. I belong to several e-mail lists. Those also take time to read but, in general, have more content. I belong to a few web forums but don't very often visit them. Again, its time but also the subject fragmentation of most of them makes reading difficult. I will continue to participate in the Usenet groups as long as there is activity.  Signature--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com What mailing lists do you recommend? > And many other web forums and e-mail mailing lists. Too > bad, the dilution has also meant fragmenting of the photo [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I will continue to participate in the Usenet groups as > long as there is activity. >What mailing lists do you recommend? I think Richards one of the snior members or moderators on the Puresilver list. Their info is available at http://www.freelists.org/archives/pure-silver/ == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net >>What mailing lists do you recommend? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > www.legacy-photo,com > www.xs750.net I am a co-administrator for the pure-silver list. It covers somewhat the same topics as this group but does not include color photography which the darkroom group does. Subscription to pure-silver may be done at the URL above. Sometimes the web interface seems not to work but I can subscribe people manually when that happens. Signature--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com >>>What mailing lists do you recommend? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >-- >Richard Knoppow Richard, How's that RDD feed working ? Also is Michael on the list ? I haven't heard from him in a while. Quite a team between you, Michael and Jim Brick. == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net >> Subscription to pure-silver may be done at the URL above. >>Sometimes the web interface seems not to work but I can [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >How's that RDD feed working Ahem ! "RSS" ! == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net > I think many users got fed up with the problems > of Usenet... Most serious users sure did... Ken >> I think many users got fed up with the problems >> of Usenet... > >Most serious users sure did... I dunno why. Other than Scarpetti there hasn't been a real troll around for years. == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net > I dunno why. Other than Scarpetti there hasn't been a real troll > around for years. Maybe, but life is horrendously short. To be called a "moron" every time someone asks a simple question is just not worth the aggravation. There are too many other options out there. I see that only eight threads below this one someone is calling someone else "vermin" and a "punk." Intellectual discourse at its finest... And right below that someone is pitching Internet "domains for sale." Yes, yes. I know I'm supposed to ignore. And I do. But why should someone have to make even that effort when, as I said, there are so many other more civil options available, and the time is so brief? Ken > > I dunno why. Other than Scarpetti there hasn't been a real troll > > around for years. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ken Save yourself any agony a buy a browser or newreader with a kill file option -life is certainly too short to deal with webstalking abusive people. SignatureThe sometimes insomniac. www.gregblankphoto.com > Save yourself any agony a buy a browser or newreader with a kill file > option -life is certainly too short to deal with webstalking abusive > people. Excellent advice -- and already implemented in the handful of NGs I still frequent as there are a small few (RK, for one) whose advice and opinion I value highly and for whom the task of censorship is made worthwhile. But as for the rest... Ken >> Save yourself any agony a buy a browser or newreader with a kill file >> option -life is certainly too short to deal with webstalking abusive [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >But as for the rest... There's Agent ;>) http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net > Maybe, but life is horrendously short. To be called a "moron" every time > someone asks a simple question is just not worth the aggravation. There are > too many other options out there. Try a newsreader will killfilter capabilities; you'd weed a lot of the fluff that way. > I see that only eight threads below this one someone is calling someone else > "vermin" and a "punk." Intellectual discourse at its finest... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > have to make even that effort when, as I said, there are so many other more > civil options available, and the time is so brief? The idea is to let the software do the filtering for you :) Usenet has some great advantages: a) It's not linked to an individual website. If the site of a particular forum goes down (bankrupcy, whatever), all info stored there is lost. rec.photo.darkroom lives forever, as long someone cares to keep an usenet server. Messages can be archived easily. b) Linked to a), nobody can ban or censor you. What happens if the web forum administrator starts to kill all messages that throw some bad light on the forum commercial announcers? c) Advanced usenet readers make navigating and reading a newgroup much more agile than clicking on a web site. While this not applies to this group, I'm not afraid to go to some high traffic newgroups, be presented with a backlog of 3000+ messages, and catch up in one hour. >Anyone home ? April 24, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick, don't bother me, I'm refilling my inkjet cartridges. --le >don't bother me, I'm refilling my inkjet >cartridges. I guess it's sometimes worth it but I just print to PDF ;>) == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net > Anyone home ? No, at work :-) Stéphane. SignatureStephane Schmuck - Junkerstr. 5 - 53177 Bonn - Germany http://www.sck-photo.de ( For E-Mail remove the _nospam to write me ) I just arrived home 10 minutes ago. Regards. Bob McCarthy > Anyone home ? Now I am :) Just got here. SignatureThe sometimes insomniac. www.gregblankphoto.com |
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