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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / March 2006Large fiber-base paper?
I know I can still get large resin-coated black and white paper on rolls. However, I'm looking for a tolerable (that is, preferably not Ilford, no matter who's selling it this week) fiber-base paper in sizes larger than 20x24. I know I'll pay through the nose. But does _anyone_ still sell this?  SignatureThor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com "We cannot usually in social life pursue a single value or a single moral aim, untroubled by the need to compromise with others." - H.L.A. Hart > I know I can still get large resin-coated black and white paper > on rolls. However, I'm looking for a tolerable (that is, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I know I'll pay through the nose. But does _anyone_ still > sell this? Freestyle had fibre rolls of Kentmere. Or at least I think they do. When I priced the stuff it seemed about equal to 8x10 paper if you compared square inches to square inches. If you know what I mean. Even on the website-) http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=&pid=1000001131 Nick Signature--------------------------------------- "Digital the new ice fishing" --------------------------------------- >I know I can still get large resin-coated black and white paper >on rolls. However, I'm looking for a tolerable (that is, >preferably not Ilford, no matter who's selling it this week) >fiber-base paper in sizes larger than 20x24. i don't have an answer, but i'm wondering why not ilford. regards, SignatureGianni Rondinini (30, tanti, RA) Nikon user - Bmw driver http://bugbarbeq.deviantart.com > I know I can still get large resin-coated black and white paper > on rolls. However, I'm looking for a tolerable (that is, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I know I'll pay through the nose. But does _anyone_ still > sell this? Forte sells rolls 42" x 33 ft Fiber based semi matte and glossy. We import it and the minimum is 4 rolls cash in advance with no cancellation if you buy it direct, at one point K&M camera in NYC would purchase a lot of the paper from us and would keep it on hand. If your interested I can provide you additional details. SignatureThe things we hate most in life often turn out to be a mirror image of ourselves. Better not to hate. Findmedirectly - "infoatgregblankphoto.com" >> I know I can still get large resin-coated black and white paper >> on rolls. However, I'm looking for a tolerable (that is, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >NYC would purchase a lot of the paper from us and would keep it on >hand. If your interested I can provide you additional details. Do you know if K&M still has it, and if so, if they have it fresh? I can't imagine I will have a need for four rolls any time soon, particularly if the material is the warm-tone paper and not the Bromofort. Is it graded, or VC? I have had mixed experiences with K&M in the past; they're not bad folks, but when there have been supply issues with various materials only they stock (or only they stocked at the time), they've sold me stuff that I thought was perhaps a bit past its prime. Of course, these were materials I couldn't get _anywhere_ else (e.g. semimatte Bromofort in c. 1993) so perhaps I should have been a bit more careful, myself. SignatureThor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com "We cannot usually in social life pursue a single value or a single moral aim, untroubled by the need to compromise with others." - H.L.A. Hart >>>I know I can still get large resin-coated black and white paper >>>on rolls. However, I'm looking for a tolerable (that is, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>>I know I'll pay through the nose. But does _anyone_ still >>>sell this? I am not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but Freestyle www.freestylephoto.biz sells Kentmere fiber paper in rolls 20" x30' and 40"x30'. Check out their website. I use Kentmere paper and it is excellent. Frank Rome, NY > Do you know if K&M still has it, and if so, if they have it fresh? Don't know their stick status, you can email me direct if you wish. But I can check when I return as of monday to see who has bought it recently, usually K&M would supply it to the bigger printing places in NYC. The rolls are available for Poly graded Warmtone & Poly graded Neutral FB & RC. In both surfaces - Glossy and Semi matte. > I can't imagine I will have a need for four rolls any time soon, > particularly if the material is the warm-tone paper and not the > Bromofort. Is it graded, or VC? The Bromofort would be a special special order as no one orders it,....I toyed with doing 16x 20 sheets at one point becuase I like it! but the requirement of 5 fifty sheet boxes dissuaded me. > I have had mixed experiences with K&M in the past; they're not bad > folks, but when there have been supply issues with various materials [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Bromofort in c. 1993) so perhaps I should have been a bit more > careful, myself. IIRC; K&M- FYI was the first importer of Forte, they brought the paper in from the start, I don't know exactly how it happened but they lost the initial distribution, It went-K&M, GMI, Satter, Omega-Satter. SignatureThe things we hate most in life often turn out to be a mirror image of ourselves. Better not to hate. Findmedirectly - "infoatgregblankphoto.com" >> Do you know if K&M still has it, and if so, if they have it fresh? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >places in NYC. The rolls are available for Poly graded Warmtone & Poly >graded Neutral FB & RC. In both surfaces - Glossy and Semi matte. The Polygrade is the variable-contrast, right? It's been a while, and I have trouble keeping the product names straight. Let's see if I can remember: "Elegance" is the warmtone, graded paper, available in 300-weight; "Bromofort" is the cold-tone, graded paper, in single and double; Polywarmtone and Polyneutral are VC, double-weight, warm and neutral respectively? I remember thinking that if I could only get Bromofort in a supergloss surface, it would be a good match for Elite; I still have a few prints I have trouble reproducing on any other material now that Elite is no longer on the market. Bromofort has somewhat higher contrast through the highlights, but there are ways of dealing with that. SignatureThor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com "We cannot usually in social life pursue a single value or a single moral aim, untroubled by the need to compromise with others." - H.L.A. Hart > >> Do you know if K&M still has it, and if so, if they have it fresh? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Polygrade is the variable-contrast, right? Polygrade is both warm tone or neutral-yes it means its VC. > It's been a while, and > I have trouble keeping the product names straight. Let's see if I > can remember: "Elegance" is the warmtone, graded paper, available in > 300-weight; Elegance is the designation for all Fiber based papers. "Bromofort" is the cold-tone, graded paper, in single and > double; I think we only ever imported the DW, it is cold tone. > Polywarmtone and Polyneutral are VC, double-weight, warm and > neutral respectively? Yep. > I remember thinking that if I could only get Bromofort in a supergloss > surface, it would be a good match for Elite; I still have a few prints > I have trouble reproducing on any other material now that Elite is no > longer on the market. Bromofort has somewhat higher contrast through > the highlights, but there are ways of dealing with that. Sounds like we think a like (scarier for you than me probably :) I never consider Elite a super glossy surface but I do feel Bromofort is a great paper like Elite. SignatureThe things we hate most in life often turn out to be a mirror image of ourselves. Better not to hate. Findmedirectly - "infoatgregblankphoto.com" May I ask a dumb question, Is the paper on rolls harder to handle due to 'built in curl'. Does the 'curl' come out in the wash so to speak? SignatureOtzi >> >> Do you know if K&M still has it, and if so, if they have it fresh? >> > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > I never consider Elite a super glossy surface but I do feel Bromofort > is a great paper like Elite. > May I ask a dumb question, Is the paper on rolls harder to handle due to > 'built in curl'. Does the 'curl' come out in the wash so to speak? Paper is by nature somewhat curly, warming the paper slightly helps. don't bake it though >:) Although I have yet to print my own work on roll paper- on occasion I handle & inspect user concerns on the rolls the paper - it is typically placed under a bladed easel which holds some of the curl down. Putting the paper in chemistry tends to release most of the curl. You can also use a vacuum easel. SignatureThe things we hate most in life often turn out to be a mirror image of ourselves. Better not to hate. Findmedirectly - "infoatgregblankphoto.com" >Forte sells rolls 42" x 33 ft Fiber based semi matte and glossy. Hmmm, I'm thinkin "panaramic" ! == John S. Douglas Photographer & Webmaster www.legacy-photo,com www.xs750.net > >Forte sells rolls 42" x 33 ft Fiber based semi matte and glossy. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > www.legacy-photo,com > www.xs750.net My short term goal is to set up that 10 x10 enlarger, build a 4x10 back for my Tachihara 8x10 camera then print them full frame onto large sheets of paper. I have toyed with the idea of actually making the image area 4x 9 for color so I can scan the full frame with my dinky 2450 scanner. SignatureThe things we hate most in life often turn out to be a mirror image of ourselves. Better not to hate. Findmedirectly - "infoatgregblankphoto.com" you should call the Imaging World @718-218-7903 I know that they sell darm room paper, give it a try, > you should call the Imaging World @718-218-7903 I know that they sell > darm room paper, give it a try, What is "Darm room paper" What's a "Darm" for that matter? Does anyone know? SignatureThe things we hate most in life often turn out to be a mirror image of ourselves. Better not to hate. Findmedirectly - "infoatgregblankphoto.com" Greg "Blank" - Lizard King. spake thus: >> you should call the Imaging World @718-218-7903 I know that they >> sell darm room paper, give it a try, > > What is "Darm room paper" What's a "Darm" for that matter? > Does anyone know? Wow--Greg Blank fires off a spelling flame. Sheesh; now I've seen everything. "Your fired!" SignatureSecond, Scientologists are like computers trying to run an emulation of another computer. It can be done, but the performance is awful. Scientologists are trying to run a bad copy of LRH. - Keith Henson, from alt.religion.scientology |
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