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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / February 2006frickin' ARGH! No more SX-70 film
ARGH! No more manipulations... and we can't stick the film in the freezer so we can't have a lifetime supply of the film. http://www.polaroid.com/sx70/ Please be advised that Polaroid will be discontinuing the manufacture of its SX-70 / Time-Zero film within the first 3 months of 2006 due to the phasing out of components used in the production of this film. We realise that this is disappointing news for our loyal SX-70 users and we would like to underline that, although the circumstances made it inevitable, it was not an easy decision. We are very sorry for the inconvenience. For customers who would like to continue using their SX-70 camera, we can offer some film alternatives below. However, we do appreciate that these films do not offer the same characteristics as SX-70 / Time-Zero film. >ARGH! No more manipulations... and we can't stick the film in the >freezer so we can't have a lifetime supply of the film. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >these films do not offer the same characteristics as SX-70 / Time-Zero >film. Try Fujifilm. They make polaroid instant film. -- Colyn Goodson http://www.colyngoodson.com > ARGH! No more manipulations... and we can't stick the film in the > freezer so we can't have a lifetime supply of the film. > > http://www.polaroid.com/sx70/ They're discontinuing a lot of films this year.  SignatureMark Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com/gallery >ARGH! No more manipulations... and we can't stick the film in the >freezer so we can't have a lifetime supply of the film. > >http://www.polaroid.com/sx70/ Your post is slightly misleading. SX-70 film is being discontinued, but Polaroid will continue to offer two types of film that are compatible with Polaroid cameras that take SX-70 film. Polaroid film was always a niche market. Now film is itself a niche market, and Polaroid SX-70 has a very small specialist niche within that niche. Given that situation, you should perhaps be celebrating the fact that Polaroid still offers a choice of two films for your camera. >>ARGH! No more manipulations... and we can't stick the film in the >>freezer so we can't have a lifetime supply of the film. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but Polaroid will continue to offer two types of film that are > compatible with Polaroid cameras that take SX-70 film. Except the compatibility requires modifying the camera. You can place an ND filter material over the exposure sensor in the camera, then you the higher ISO films they make for their other instant cameras. > Polaroid film was always a niche market. Now film is itself a niche > market, and Polaroid SX-70 has a very small specialist niche within [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It was mostly going to the art community in recent years. They nearly warned people on SX-70 films about a year ago when they changed formulation of a batch, and many found that it could not be manipulated. Then the bad batch seemed to sell out, and now we have the discontinuation notice. Oh well . . . I mostly do the other forms of Polaroid manipulation, so not a big deal. I do have an SX-70 camera, which happens to be the only autofocus camera I use. Still not sure if I will ever modify it. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com> Are Polaroid basicly killing of an art for? I am new to photography and I had thought about trying it, so I am sad to see it go, I would have thought that sales of SX-70 would have remaind strong as I see so many people going on about it. As for polaroid in general, It is in decline, but Polaroids are instand print cameras, there will probably always be people who need prints there and then, no? > Are Polaroid basicly killing of an art for? I guess killing off an art form is one way to look at it. There is a process called water graphs possible with there 600 instant films, though that is very different than SX-70 film manipulation. > I am new to photography and I had thought about trying it, so I am sad > to see it go, I would have thought that sales of SX-70 would have > remaind strong as I see so many people going on about it. These are very popular, or were, on EBAY. The cameras can still work with 600 instant film, but require a modification to alter the light meter reading. Just a guess, but they probably sell a ton more of the other instant films, especially to law enforcement, insurance, and construction organizations. > As for polaroid in general, It is in decline, but Polaroids are instand > print cameras, there will probably always be people who need prints > there and then, no? I still see an appeal to using Polaroid instant films. They are just so simple, and probably a very cool basic fun system. Push a button and get a print, even at a somewhat reasonable cost. The other Polaroid realm has actually seen a recent expansion of sales from Fuji, that being the peel apart films. I think those will consolidate a little, with probably just one or two colour choices, and a few B/W choices. Some professionals still use these for proofing, or checking lighting, or in fashion photography. There are some more interesting manipulations and fine art approaches with peel apart films; this is most of the Polaroid stuff I do and exhibit. You can see more Polaroid creative work at: <http://www.polaroid.com/creative/index.jsp?PRDREG=null> I should mention that while I have tried some of this with the Fuji peel apart films, I have yet to find good and consistent methods. Part of that I think is down to subtle differences in the way the Fuji instant films are produced. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com> >Except the compatibility requires modifying the camera. That is a trivially small price to pay for being able to continue using the camera. The alternative is not to make the trivial modification, then the camera is useful only as an ornament. >>Except the compatibility requires modifying the camera. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I am still thinking about it. I have only used my SX-70 for creative work, or for fun at events. At the point when I can no longer buy SX-70 film anywhere, then I will make a decision. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com> >>Except the compatibility requires modifying the camera. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >The alternative is not to make the trivial modification, then the >camera is useful only as an ornament. Shoot ! Just get a 5X7 and make contact prints onto platinum paper, hand color with Marshalls and be done with it ! == John - Photographer & Webmaster www.puresilver.org - www.xs750.net Actually you have to *remove* the ND filter over the meter, and still crank the exposure comp. There are some instructions out there for changing a few capacitors to permanently change the metering if you're willing to disassemble your camera. > Actually you have to *remove* the ND filter over the meter, and still > crank the exposure comp. There are some instructions out there for > changing a few capacitors to permanently change the metering if you're > willing to disassemble your camera. I have lots of websites bookmarked for Polaroid items, but I have never seen a capacitor change trick. I am quite good with soldering and electronics, so this sounds more appealing to me. Google is such a piece of crap now with so many ads coming up in searches that I found nothing in the first 100 hits; if you have a link to the changes, it would be very appreciated. Thanks! Gordon Moat A G Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com> >> Actually you have to *remove* the ND filter over the meter, and still >> crank the exposure comp. There are some instructions out there for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I have lots of websites bookmarked for Polaroid items, but I have never > seen a capacitor change trick. I don't understand why there would be a single capacitor in a light meter. They are all DC-connected, with no time-dependent components. -- Lassi http://www.chemie.unibas.ch/~holder/SX70.html click on the 'Can I use type 600-film in a SX-70 camera ?' link. > http://www.chemie.unibas.ch/~holder/SX70.html > > click on the 'Can I use type 600-film in a SX-70 camera ?' link. Okay, found the text description in the FAQ section. Certainly does not sound like a simple modification. I took a text clipping of that for future reference, just in case I might want to try it some time in the future. Thanks! Gordon Moat A G Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com> http://www.polaroid.com/global/printer_friendly.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444 1763684&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574488338439&bmUID=1139691894177&bmLocale=en_US SX-70 Manipulation Issues It has recently been brought to our attention that, due to a change in manufacturing process, current supplies of Time-Zero film no longer have the ability to be "manipulated" for Creative purposes. This is an unintended - and unanticipated - consequence of a process change. We understand the passion that the artistic community has for the Creative Uses technique, and want to assure you that we are taking this situation very seriously. We are currently working on possible solutions, though we cannot promise a replacement product. We are very sorry for this situation, and again, are treating it with the utmost urgency. We will post further updates on this site as they become available. If you have further questions, please call our Technical Assistance group @ 1.800.225.1618. New Update: Please check www.polaroid.com/sx70 for information on Time-Zero film. Well if they can come up with a viable alternative that would be nice. |
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