Thanks for the reply Bernie.
Do you believe there are any valid arguments you could make, either
from a technical or 'artistic' standpoint in using a darkroom to
develop/process colour photos vs digital, as my friend is not happy
using a computer and would much prefer to use a darkroom, if she can
persuade the relevant people to allow her access to one
Thanks again
Paul
IMHO one should feel happy with the way she/he reaches her/his goal. I'm
happy in my darkroom where I calm down, computers just make me nervous. Both
digital and traditional printing have their benifits and shortly the
discussion about which is the best became obsolete and very boring. If you
don't like computers, well go to your real darkroom and enjoy what you're
doing and stop wasting your and everybody's time arguing. Just follow your
guts. So if your friend wants a darkroom, let her persuade those people,
maybe they went digital meanwhile ;-)
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| Thanks again
| Paul
Anytime you can get away from a computer is great argument for a
darkroom. In my eyes I feel that working in the darkroom is a relaxing
experience (at least with b/w). Sitting in front of a computer
doctoring up photos is fun, but it just doesn't have the same feeling
or experience.
At this time, I think there's really no real difference in the two
mediums (other than one is a dying art with hard to find or recently
canceled supplies). It's whatever makes you feel good about your art.
nailer - 11 Feb 2006 05:31 GMT
two different species. Digital is way simpler and cheaper. If you ever
had to spot brush color pics, you will appreciate Photoshop features.
in a darkroom your BW images are ready immediately, well after few
minutes. In digital, you are either filthy rich to print them using an
ink-jet printer or you take them to a minilab copying from digital
media.
What you call feeling/experience is experience/fluency.
#Anytime you can get away from a computer is great argument for a
#darkroom. In my eyes I feel that working in the darkroom is a
relaxing
#experience (at least with b/w). Sitting in front of a computer
#doctoring up photos is fun, but it just doesn't have the same feeling
#or experience.
#
#At this time, I think there's really no real difference in the two
#mediums (other than one is a dying art with hard to find or recently
#canceled supplies). It's whatever makes you feel good about your art.
John - 11 Feb 2006 06:16 GMT
>two different species. Digital is way simpler and cheaper. If you ever
>had to spot brush color pics, you will appreciate Photoshop features.
Which is why I haven't used my Adams retouching machine in 6 years.
==
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Paul, there are many semantics and personal feeligs involved in how one goes
about creating an image. I think the most important thing here is the
artistic point. Some painters use oils, some acrylic, and some prefer
watercolors. well, watercolors are a different style, but the choice of
acrylic versus oil is a personal one.
Actual darkroom production of photographic prints, whether color or B&W is a
tradition which an artist should not have to forgo. That said, I saw
comments in recent communications from the photo school at Rochester
Institute of Technology that todays students would not need to learn how to
use or develop silver halide materials because of the transition to digital.
I am an alumni of RIT, and I don't understand how they can ignore well over
100 years of photographic history, and consider graduating students with no
knowledge of that history or materials which are still used today.
If your friend is persueing a knowledge of photography, I don't see how
someone can tell her to ignore traditional materials in favor of digital.
I've done it both ways, and as Jan and Nathan point out, there is a special
feeling most of us get being creative in a darkroom. Manipulating images on
a computer is a totally different way of working, and does not give me the
same feeling of accomplishment.
As for retouching prints, or worse yet, portrait negatives, thee is good
reason that John says he hasn't touched his Adams retouching machine in 6
years. It is so much easier to correct blemishes, soften lines under eyes,
and do other restoration on a computer.
> Thanks for the reply Bernie.
>
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> Thanks again
> Paul
G- Blank - 12 Feb 2006 14:58 GMT
> Paul, there are many semantics and personal feeligs involved in how one goes
> about creating an image. I think the most important thing here is the
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> 100 years of photographic history, and consider graduating students with no
> knowledge of that history or materials which are still used today.
Key words Rochester- aka "heavily subsidized " by Eastman Kodak.
> If your friend is persueing a knowledge of photography, I don't see how
> someone can tell her to ignore traditional materials in favor of digital.
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> years. It is so much easier to correct blemishes, soften lines under eyes,
> and do other restoration on a computer.
I agree with your feelings on this stuff, leaving out the 150+ years of
photographic history and the origins of photography makes the school
no different than many technical training facilities.
But in the words of a fellow photographer RIT -the school
you spend 100+k to get a 30k job.

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