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Robert J. Mathes - 30 Jan 2006 00:23 GMT

I have a couple of 4x5 film holders where the black clothe-like tape that
allows the bottom of the holder to swing open has torn and needs to be
replaced. I'm hoping someone can guide me to a source where I can buy this
tape to repair these holders. Thanks.

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David Nebenzahl - 30 Jan 2006 01:30 GMT

Robert J. Mathes spake thus:

> I have a couple of 4x5 film holders where the black clothe-like tape that
> allows the bottom of the holder to swing open has torn and needs to be
> replaced. I'm hoping someone can guide me to a source where I can buy this
> tape to repair these holders. Thanks.

If you can get ahold of the old black cloth electrician's tape, this
will work admirably. Dunno where to get it--is it even still available?
Maybe 2nd-hand stores.

You can also glue any kind of black fabric over the edge, using Elmer's
or equivalent if it's a wooden holder. It needn't be light-tight;
there's a light trap in the little door.

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Richard Knoppow - 30 Jan 2006 01:40 GMT

> Robert J. Mathes spake thus:
>
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> needn't be light-tight; there's a light trap in the little
> door.

At one time Calumet had the tape but Robert is right, its
just a hinge, not a light blocker, so any cloth or cloth
tape will work.

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Matt McGrattan - 30 Jan 2006 13:57 GMT

> Robert J. Mathes spake thus:
>
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> or equivalent if it's a wooden holder. It needn't be light-tight;
> there's a light trap in the little door.

Bicycle stores ought to stock black cloth tape. It's used for wrapping
racing bike handlebars. I bought some recently.

Matt

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Bob AZ - 30 Jan 2006 05:14 GMT

Robert

where I can buy this tape to repair these holders. Thanks.

Gaffers tape.

Bob AZ

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Jean-David Beyer - 30 Jan 2006 11:38 GMT

Bob AZ wrote:

> Robert
>
> where I can buy this tape to repair these holders. Thanks.
>
> Gaffers tape.

I have never had to replace the tape, but I have only been using 4x5 since
about 1975. The original is much like the old "friction tape" that
electricians used to use. Perhaps the reason I no longer see that kind of
tape on the market is because electric codes probably do not permit splicing
wires anymore. You should use it all in one run, and any connections seem to
be made with wire nuts inside junction boxes.

Stuff like duct tape are too thick and I suspect too stiff to use with
pleasure; i.e., they would be annoyingly stiff.

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Richard Knoppow - 31 Jan 2006 22:40 GMT

> Bob AZ wrote:
>> Robert
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> to use with
> pleasure; i.e., they would be annoyingly stiff.

The problem with "friction" tape, and many other tapes,
is that the adhesive migrates and leaves a gummy border
around the tape. Friction tape is NOT the familiar smooth
plastic electrical tape. I have not seen actual friction
tape for some time.
Gaffer tape works OK for holders because the adhesive is
specifically designed not to migrate. Note that Gaffer tape
is NOT the same thing is duct tape although they are often
confused. Gaffer tape is intended for temporary fastening of
things on a movie set, it is designed to be relatively
strong but to be removable with as litte damage to the
surface its fastend to as possible. Duct tape is meant for
wrapping air conditioning ducts and has a very sticky
adhesive that spreads and is hard to remove.
Probably the best solution to replacing the hinges on
holders is to use a thin leatherette plastic and cement it
with contact cement. The material is thin and smooth, both
desirable for the application.

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Frank Pittel - 01 Feb 2006 02:19 GMT

: > Bob AZ wrote:
: >> Robert
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
: > to use with
: > pleasure; i.e., they would be annoyingly stiff.

: The problem with "friction" tape, and many other tapes,
: is that the adhesive migrates and leaves a gummy border
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
: with contact cement. The material is thin and smooth, both
: desirable for the application.

Friction tape isn't used by electricians to much anymore. In fact
the use of even electrical tape is frowned on by electrical inspectors.
To many "bad" practices were getting covered up with layers of tape!
Those that have their hearts set on friction tape can go to a sports
store and get the tape that gets used on hockey sticks. It's been many
years since I played hockey but I don't remember any trouble with the
stuff making a mess like electric tape and duck tape.

I've been using gaffers tape on the hinges. It sticks good and I have a
lot of the stuff and can replace it easily.

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Mike King - 03 Feb 2006 19:02 GMT

http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/FI4506.html?ac.cat.CatTreeSearch.detail=y&type=
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or just search the Calumet website for Fidelity tape

$2.99/yd.

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