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odonoghue - 29 Jan 2006 10:56 GMT
Recently read of development by inspection with reference to infrared
monocular.

Have never tried this — any of you have experience to pass along on this
subject?

Cheers,
Mike
R.W. Behan - 29 Jan 2006 18:32 GMT
"Development by inspection" was a technique used years ago (at age 72, I can
remember it--not well, but gimme a break) to develop orthochromatic film.
Those films were NOT sensitive to red light, so you could watch (or
"inspect") the stage of development, under a red safelight, as it
progressed.  One of the "ortho"  films I recall using was Kodak Verichrome,
but the "inspection" process was pretty sketchy, since the red safelights in
the darkroom were really quite dim.  The ortho films faded from general
popularity as "Kodak Super XX" came to be the favorite, and then an
astonishly fast film, Kodak Tri-X.  These were panchromatic films, and were
sensitive to the entire visible light spectrum.  They had to be developed in
total darkness, which put the "inspectors" out of business.  After that it
was time-and-temperature that you had to use to control development.

And yes, I'm still shooting Tri-X.

Cheers,

Dick B.

> Recently read of development by inspection with reference to infrared
> monocular.
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> Cheers,
> Mike
odonoghue - 29 Jan 2006 21:41 GMT
> "Development by inspection" was a technique used years ago (at age 72, I can
> remember it--not well, but gimme a break) to develop orthochromatic film.
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>>Cheers,
>>Mike

That's been my film of choice since the early sixties when I could get
it in 6x9 format packs. Then I was a rank beginner, but some pictures
actually came out. I remember the smell of a freshly opened pack — magic!

Developed in HC110 or pyro.
Mike - 29 Jan 2006 19:02 GMT
I tried it recently.

Only feasible for sheet film.  Typically a very dim dark-green light is
turned on after about half of the development time.  The reason green is
chosen is because that is what the eye is most sensitive too-- not the
film.  You can then tell whether or not the highlights have been developed
enough.

I don't think I will use it regularly unless faced with developing film
under wierd, untested lighting conditions.  

I noticed absolutely no fogging even though the sheets of film were
exposed to the green light for up to 60 seconds.

> Recently read of development by inspection with reference to infrared
> monocular.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Cheers,
> Mike
Nicholas O. Lindan - 29 Jan 2006 20:08 GMT
> Only feasible for sheet film.  Typically a very dim dark-green light is
> turned on after about half of the development time.  The reason green is
> chosen is because that is what the eye is most sensitive too-- not the
> film.  You can then tell whether or not the highlights have been developed
> enough.

There are several desensitizers that allow a brighter inspection light/
less chance of fogging.

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=development+by+inspection+desensitizer&num=100
&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

pulls up a reasonable amount of info.

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Richard Knoppow - 30 Jan 2006 01:48 GMT
> I tried it recently.
>
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>> Cheers,
>> Mike

  One reason for waiting until about half the development
time is that the film is desensitized as it develops,
another reason is that it gives the developer a chance to
decolorize the anti-halation backing, which, if its in
place, makes inspection impossible.
  Development by inspection works where one has little idea
of the correct development time for the film and developer
combination but it takes some experience to judge the
density of the unfixed negatives under the very weak light
required for panchromatic films.
  Like many others of a certain age, my first experience in
developing was of orthochromatic film under a red safelight.
That's an experience I think every darkroom worker should
have, but there is little orthochromatic these days. Even
then I went by the recommended time rather than the
appearance of the negatives.

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Richard Knoppow
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dickburk@ix.netcom.com

UC - 29 Jan 2006 20:57 GMT
Time and temperature is best with modern panchromatic films.

> Recently read of development by inspection with reference to infrared
> monocular.
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> Cheers,
> Mike
ujazz32@hotmail.com - 30 Jan 2006 19:34 GMT
DBI (Development By Inspection) works best with sheet film in trays,
using a pyro developer and a dark green safelight. The larger the
format, the more forgiving of overexposure, so there is considerabe
latitude in developing sheet film. Unlike time/temp development, I've
never had a development failure with DBI, and it's not a difficult
technique to learn. That being said, I rarely use DBI, preferring
processing by time/temp in tubes, drums, or tanks. I have not tried the
IR goggles/monocular, but if I was commited to DBI, I might. Good luck.

Jay
 
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