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illuminated F/stop dial on my 50mm APO Rodagon N.

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theyankeesnapper@aol.com - 27 Nov 2005 15:25 GMT
The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops when
used on either my durst M605 B&W, or my LPL 670 when I'm doing 35mm. Is
there an adjustment or slide I'm not seeing? It never bothered me until
I was at the B&H website and was looking at this lenses spec's. Am I
missing something other than the illuminating F/stop's?

Regards.

Bob McCarthy
theyankeesnapper@aol.com
John - 27 Nov 2005 18:06 GMT
> The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops when
> used on either my durst M605 B&W, or my LPL 670 when I'm doing 35mm. Is
> there an adjustment or slide I'm not seeing? It never bothered me until
> I was at the B&H website and was looking at this lenses spec's. Am I
> missing something other than the illuminating F/stop's?

I might be wrong but I don't think all of the Rodagons are illuminated. I  
think this was an improvement that was implemented in the last 10 years.

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Mike King - 27 Nov 2005 19:16 GMT
In my recollection, illuminated stops use enlarger light from around the
perimeter of the lens, look at the back of your lens you may see a small
clear lens, port or hole that is the entry point for the light that is used
to illuminate the stops, if the design of your enlarger is too efficient
(think "Durst" masking carriers etc.) about masking off non-image forming
light (aka "fog") the stops may not be getting any light.  Other designs may
use other ways to get the light to the aperture ring, light from outside the
image circle perhaps but with some enlargers again there just isn't much
"spare" light.
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> The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops when
> used on either my durst M605 B&W, or my LPL 670 when I'm doing 35mm. Is
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> Bob McCarthy
> theyankeesnapper@aol.com
Nicholas O. Lindan - 28 Nov 2005 01:06 GMT
<theyankeesnapper@aol.com> wrote in message
> The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops

On my 150mm Rodagon there is a plastic piece on the periphery of the
rear element mount that needs to be illuminated.  When the lens is
in an adapter for use in a turret then light no longer gets to this
piece and the aperture ring is dark.

Take off the lens board and look from the rear: do you see the
plastic thingy?  You may be able to drill a hole or do some filing
to let light in - with a thread adapter that option is out, though.

#1) Get some rubylith and re-lens a penlight.  #2) Pay someone
to do #1 for you: Google for "penlight red" or "penlight safelight",
"red flashlight" etc..

I have the penlight tied to a string tied to the enlarger bench.

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Mike King - 30 Nov 2005 17:18 GMT
I have a small AA flash that I do the same thing with, though I'm now
lusting after a red LED penlight.  The little Mag-Lites have a filter kit,
not sure how "safe" the red filter in this kit is but for short periods it
should do.  The flashlight has one other advantage, an illuminated aperture
ring is no help at all when you drop your pencil on the floor!

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> <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> wrote in message
> > The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops
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> I have the penlight tied to a string tied to the enlarger bench.
Lloyd Erlick - 11 Feb 2006 23:16 GMT
>I have the penlight tied to a string tied to the enlarger bench.

February 11, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

You know, this solves a problem for me.

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Bob Salomon - 27 Nov 2005 21:44 GMT
> The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops when
> used on either my durst M605 B&W, or my LPL 670 when I'm doing 35mm. Is
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> Bob McCarthy
> theyankeesnapper@aol.com

The small rectangular port on the rear surface of your lens is closed
off either by a piece of tape - if the lens had been used for macro or
reversed, or by the lens flange.

The only other reason was your buying a used lens that was scavanged
from some type of scanner for industrial applications. Those versions
did not have the illuminated aperture or the pre-set aperture control or
the dis-engageable click stops.

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theyankeesnapper@aol.com - 28 Nov 2005 01:26 GMT
Hi:

I bought this lens new about 10 years ago, APO-Rodagon N 50mm F2.8,
serial #11217832.
I can see the rectangular port and its clean and clear, could my lens
be defective?

Regards.

Bob McCarthy
John - 28 Nov 2005 01:40 GMT
> I bought this lens new about 10 years ago, APO-Rodagon N 50mm F2.8,
> serial #11217832.
> I can see the rectangular port and its clean and clear, could my lens
> be defective?

APO ? Oh yeah it must be broken ah, eh, letsee, I'll give you $50 for it  
in light of the lack of light !

    ;>)

Seriously, there must be something obstructing the light path.

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Mike King - 30 Nov 2005 17:19 GMT
check for something in the enlarger that may be blocking the light from
getting to the light port.

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> Bob McCarthy
Jean-David Beyer - 28 Nov 2005 01:51 GMT
> The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops when
> used on either my durst M605 B&W, or my LPL 670 when I'm doing 35mm. Is
> there an adjustment or slide I'm not seeing? It never bothered me until
> I was at the B&H website and was looking at this lenses spec's. Am I
> missing something other than the illuminating F/stop's?

One of my lenses, not a Rodagon, has such a light, but so little light hits
the window that it is useless. One of my Beseler lens boards has a light,
too, but same problem.

I just count clicks. Most lenses are 1 f-stop apart, but one lens is 1/2
f-stop. Lots less bother.

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John - 28 Nov 2005 04:26 GMT
> I just count clicks. Most lenses are 1 f-stop apart, but one lens is 1/2
> f-stop. Lots less bother.

I just leave mine set to one aperture unless I'm printing color. 2 stops  
down from wide open.

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seog - 28 Nov 2005 23:51 GMT
> One of my lenses, not a Rodagon, has such a light, but so little light
> hits
> the window that it is useless. One of my Beseler lens boards has a light,
> too, but same problem.

Exactly. It's basically a useless feature. It only "works" when you're
making the exposure. What's the point?
Nicholas O. Lindan - 29 Nov 2005 00:13 GMT
> [Rodagon enlarging lens aperture light-pipe]
> Exactly. It's basically a useless feature. It only "works" when you're
> making the exposure. What's the point?

Focus, stop down, then turn off the enlarger?

FWIW, I like the feature.

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John - 29 Nov 2005 03:05 GMT
> Exactly. It's basically a useless feature. It only "works" when you're
> making the exposure. What's the point?

I don't have any problems seeing the digits on my Schneiders or my Nikkor.  
As stated previously, I don't change the apertures much anyway but I can  
always take a look at them in the dark and tell what the setting is.

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Matt Clara - 30 Nov 2005 18:00 GMT
> The illuminated dial on my Rodagon is not illuminating the F/stops when
> used on either my durst M605 B&W, or my LPL 670 when I'm doing 35mm. Is
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Bob McCarthy
> theyankeesnapper@aol.com

It depends on the density of your negative.  Less dense negatives pass more
light to the window.  That's been my experience with my 80mm Rodagon on my
Bessler 23c, anyway.

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