>> I'd like to keep my NaOH available in solution to make handling easier.
>> What's the maximum concentration I can use safely?
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> Label it, store it in a tray in case the bottle leaks,
> and keep it away from curious people.
> Any reason I shouldn't add it to a slush of crushed ice and cool water?
You can try to add a small amount to ice, but the NaOH will melt the ice
and it will heat up markedly. It's safer to add a small amount (10% or
so) to the water, let it dissolve, and permit the solution to cool
before the next addition.
As I said:
> "If you intend to use it in that manner, care must be used
> when dissolving the sodium hydroxide. While dissolving,
> the solution temperature can easily exceed that of boiling
> water, and common containers made of plastic will melt,
> and glass will crack. The solution is very caustic, and
> can cause immediate damage to skin (deep ulcers) or blindness.
BTW, the 50% solution is inconvenient to use. Since it is a W/W
mixture (50 g NaOH + 50 g (ml) H2O), the amount of 50% solution required
must be weighed before use. It isn't measured by volume. The advantage
over dry NaOH is that the weight is more accurate since carbonates and
water alter the composition of the crystals.
If you want a solution that is convenient to use, make up a 10% W/V
solution by adding 10g NaOH to 80 ml water, and after it dissolves,
bring the volume to 100 ml. Then if you need 0.5 g, pour out 5 ml. That
approach is more than accurate enough for photographic processing.
John - 27 Nov 2005 16:57 GMT
> If you want a solution that is convenient to use, make up a 10% W/V
> solution by adding 10g NaOH to 80 ml water, and after it dissolves,
> bring the volume to 100 ml. Then if you need 0.5 g, pour out 5 ml. That
> approach is more than accurate enough for photographic processing.
Methinks that carbonates are much easier to deal with and just as good (?)
for photographic use.

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dan.c.quinn@att.net - 27 Nov 2005 21:55 GMT
> Methinks that carbonates are much easier to deal
> with and just as good (?) for photographic use.
A change of heart? Thinking back to carbonated
developers and acid stops. Dan
John - 27 Nov 2005 22:22 GMT
>> Methinks that carbonates are much easier to deal
>> with and just as good (?) for photographic use.
>>
> A change of heart? Thinking back to carbonated
> developers and acid stops. Dan
LOL ! You have an excellent memory ! Actually I swore off carbonates along
with hydroxides quite some time ago. I still have a couple of pounds of
metaborate left and then that will probably cease as well. Borax and
sulfite are just fine ;>)

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Michael Gudzinowicz - 29 Nov 2005 04:15 GMT
>> If you want a solution that is convenient to use, make up a 10% W/V
>> solution by adding 10g NaOH to 80 ml water, and after it dissolves,
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> Methinks that carbonates are much easier to deal with and just as good
> (?) for photographic use.
Buurrrppp....
The 50% solution is convenient to use in a lab to adjust the pH of
concentrated buffers. Less concentrated solutions are useful if you
want to remove the emulsion from plates or film, or dilute solutions
may be used to induce reticulation, though carbonate is more controllable.
Nicholas O. Lindan - 28 Nov 2005 00:44 GMT
> If you want a solution that is convenient to use, make up a 10% W/V
> solution by adding 10g NaOH to 80 ml water, and after it dissolves,
> bring the volume to 100 ml. Then if you need 0.5 g, pour out 5 ml. That
> approach is more than accurate enough for photographic processing.
A 10% w/v stock solution is used in graphic arts. It is
diluted to 1% w/v for use in developing [dissolving, really]
resist. When exposed to UV the resist washes off easily
in 1% NaOH solution. - some resists work the other way and
wash off if _not_ exposed to UV. What this has to do with
what concentration to use for a stock solution is
a mystery to me too.

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