| If contrast is found to be too low, Hydroquinone solution may be added as required
> on the Jack's Photographic and Chemistry Site
> (http://www.jackspcs.com/pd130a.htm), it said,
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> version of Adams
> 130. thanks.
From the amount of the ingredients it apears that the
Hydroquinone solution is given at about the same
concentration as the developer stock but of course it can be
added to the working solution in the amount appropriate to
the dilution.
Glycin is a warm tone developer for prints. In the
original Agfa/Ansco 130 it results in an active developer
which gives somewhat more neutral image color than Dektol.
However, it is very similar to standard print developers
like Dektol (Kodak D-72). You can get approximately the same
developer by adding 11 grams of Glycin and about 3 grams of
bromide per liter of stock to Dektol.
Leaving out the Hydroquinone will lower the activity of
the developer considerably. Kodak Selectol Soft and
Agfa/Ansco 120 are print developers with Metol as the sole
developing agent. They are intended to produce lower than
normal contrast on prints. However, since printing paper is
developed to completion the contrast is pretty much fixed by
the emulsion. Film is only partially developed so the
contrast can be varied by adjusting the development. In a
printing paper reducing development to reduce contrast will
generally also reduce the maximum density, which is seldom
desirable. The total variation in contrast available from so
called variable contrast developers has been shown to be no
more than half a grade. These are hangovers from the 1930's
and 1940's when having a choice of paper grade meant having
to stock a box of paper for each grade, which can get
expensive. The variable contrast developer was an attempt to
overcome this through the developer.
I would never discourage anyone from experimenting but
understand what you are experimenting with and don't be too
disappointed if it doesn't work as advertised.

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Lloyd Erlick - 01 Oct 2005 21:05 GMT
>understand what you are experimenting with and don't be too
>disappointed if it doesn't work as advertised.
October 1, 2005, from Lloyd Erlick,
I've used the 130 (Adams) version of this
developer, when I had some Glycin. It's a
very nice developer for portraits. It works
very nicely on Ilford Warmtone (MGW) paper.
I got my Glycin from Artcraft. I had tried a
local supplier but they could only get the
type of Glycin that dyed (stained!) textiles.
Very warm results, right out under the
borders of the print! So watch what you get
if it's labeled Glycin, and the supplier must
be willing to refund. I believe Photogs
Formulary also sells it.
It does not last forever in powder form, so
don't buy huge amounts. Fresh powder is
off-white to light gray. Mine was light gray,
and over the course of a year turned to light
then dark brown in the container. I didn't
try filling the jar with nitrogen after each
time I opened it. I wonder if that would
help??
The 130 formula contains alkali (carbonate).
Dissolve them first and the Glycin should
dissolve without much trouble. Listen for it
to hiss while it dissolves!
regards,
--le

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Steven Woody - 02 Oct 2005 06:03 GMT
>> on the Jack's Photographic and Chemistry Site
>> (http://www.jackspcs.com/pd130a.htm), it said,
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> understand what you are experimenting with and don't be too
> disappointed if it doesn't work as advertised.
thanks for you answer, though i may have some confusing about 'developed to
completion' yet i think it worth another thread. so, please see my post.

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LR Kalajainen - 02 Oct 2005 18:48 GMT
Any paper developer may be made into a two-bath formula simply by
putting the alkaline activator (in most cases this is sodium carbonate
(pH Plus or Arm & Hammer Washing Soda) into the second bath. That
leaves only the developing agents, preservatives, and restrainer in the
first bath. The latent image soaks up as much of that as needed, and
then when placed in the second bath, the activating alkali makes
development proceed very quickly to completion, i.e. full development of
all the agent soaked up in bath 1.
Advantages are elimination of time/temp variables; absolute
repeatability from print to print; and the possibility of having two
different Bath One's, e.g. a warm-tone and a cold-tone, or a
low-contrast and a normal or higher contrast formula. Then if you've
got, for example, a very contrasty neg, you can run it through the
low-contrast bath one rather than the normal-high contrast one.
Two-bath developers mean an extra tray in the sink, but lots of extra
convenience and controls. Also very cheap. Bath One will virtually
never become exhausted--only used up in volume. I've had bath one mixes
keep for well over a year without oxidation or spoilage. Bath two,
since it's only sodium carbonate, can be mixed in the tray each session
and thrown out afterward for a mere cost of pennies. (About 1/3 cup
carbonate to two liters of water).
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Beer's print developer is another where a hydroquinone
component is added to vary the contrast. Beer's A is
Ansco 120 at 2/3 the 120's stock strength.
As with Adams' VC A-B 130, Beer's B contains the
hydroquinone. I've worked with Beer's VC developer
and am very incouraged by the results.
My method is to use small solution volumes one-shot.
At present, IIRC, I've at least Beer's 1, 5, and 7
as one-shot stock strengths in one ounce bottles.
Adams' or Beer's, the A solution will work alone
but the B solution will not.
As for 2 baths, I've read of it used where solution
strength varies but not the chemical makeup.
I work only with Graded paper and so take an interest
in VC developers and other whole print contrast
controls. I've no intention of ditching my
very well lite Graded paper not-so-dark
darkroom. Dan