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ggrosz@cascadeaccess.com - 12 Aug 2005 03:12 GMT
I've been shooting and printing B&W film/prints since the 1960's.  I
have enjoyed shooting more than being in the darkroom, but I still love
the magic of watching my prints materialize under the safelight.

Now I have many years of both B&W and color to print.  Although I still
have my original Omega B-22XL (?) enlarger, I also have my Mac.  I'm
keeping my B&W darkroom but also want to put together a digital setup
based on my Mac.  I'd like some suggestions regarding what I
should/need to buy.

It seems to me that a Nikon Coolscan 9000 and an Epson 4800 would work
for me.  I'd like to know about color management as well as the
computer setup.

1  How important is the color management software?  I shoot documentary
as well as nature photography and gritty people pix (great for B&W).
I've read articles about complicated and possibly trendy Gretamacbeth
color management software, and articles where no color managment is
mentioned - at least in terms of it being a make or break item for
someone like me, who is not a studio portrait photog trying to please
wedding customers.

What is your opinion about the various color managment software and if
you deem it useful.

2  I currently have a PowerBook G4, a couple years old. I presume I
could hook up a 22 or 23 inch Cinema display if need be.

3  I don't want to purchase items that aren't going to be worth the
money, but on the other hand I'm willing to spend the money if it will
actually enhance/improve the images I print.

4  What would you consider to be a list of "mandatory" hardware and
software to make a really good digital darkroom for both B&W and color?
I'm assuming a good scanner (Coolscan 9000), printer (Epson 4800), and
a good monitor that I can calibrate such as a Cineman Display.  But do
I need a high-budget color management system like Gretamacbeth?  And
possibly a newer Mac to run PhotoShop and other photo software?

Thanks for reading all of this.  I'm excited about putting my
"darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
matter.
Goof Dude - 12 Aug 2005 05:21 GMT
I'd invest it in soybeans and pork bellies for now and shop for the same
junk in a year or two . . .

> I've been shooting and printing B&W film/prints since the 1960's.  I
> have enjoyed shooting more than being in the darkroom, but I still love
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> "darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
> matter.
Nicholas O. Lindan - 12 Aug 2005 18:22 GMT
> I'd invest it in soybeans and pork bellies for now and shop for the same
> [digital] junk in a year or two . . .

True, but that was the case last year
and it will be the case next year.

Digital/computer hardware is always going obsolete, and always at
the same rate.  20-50 % hard drives fail in 4 years.  At the third
hard drive failure it is "Get this thing out of my sight;"
You can't get a hard drive for it anyway.  So even if you
keep using old software developed when the computer was
made [a _real_ good idea: only upgrade software when you
upgrade the computer], and thus don't *need* a new one,
you will chuck the computer.

Spending money on useable photographic equipment of any
sort is _not_ an investment.  As a sailboat is a hole in
the water into which you throw money, photography is a
Nicholas O. Lindan - 12 Aug 2005 20:41 GMT
dark cave with the same purpose.
Gregory Blank - 12 Aug 2005 06:14 GMT
> I've been shooting and printing B&W film/prints since the 1960's.  I
> have enjoyed shooting more than being in the darkroom, but I still love
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> "darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
> matter.

Your welcome; why not post the digital questions in a digital specific
newsgroup? Plus there are a huge amount of web based resources
on Digital aspects of photo you'' be be served there after all this is
a Darkroom centric group and digital has nothing to do with darkroom
work. Any true darkroom questions are invited and quite acceptable.

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The Photographer - 12 Aug 2005 16:04 GMT
>Thanks for reading all of this.  I'm excited about putting my
>"darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
>matter.

I think you'd be much better off posting this to rec.photo.digital
where it's both on-topic and likely to get much more qualified
opinion. Most of us don't care to know about the toys used for DI as
it's still second-best by a few decades.

JD
UC - 12 Aug 2005 21:10 GMT
'Digital darkroom' is an oxe and moron....

> >Thanks for reading all of this.  I'm excited about putting my
> >"darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
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John - 12 Aug 2005 16:08 GMT
>Thanks for reading all of this.  I'm excited about putting my
>"darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
>matter.

I think you'd be much better off posting this to rec.photo.digital
where it's both on-topic and likely to get much more qualified
opinion. Most of us don't care to know about the toys used for DI as
it's still second-best by a few decades.

JD
UC - 12 Aug 2005 16:11 GMT
> I've been shooting and printing B&W film/prints since the 1960's.  I
> have enjoyed shooting more than being in the darkroom, but I still love
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> "darkroom" together but I would truly appreciate your thoughts on the
> matter.

Go away and don't come back. This is 'darkroom', dumbass!
 
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