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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / August 2005Developing Efke film with fx-1
I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers formularly. Has anyone tried either of the films with FX-1? I'm also wondering how FX-1 would work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas?  Signature------------------- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > would > work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas? Whoa huge amounts of contrast. The Efke 25 is a very contrast prone film & using it with PMK it was very very acute and lots of contrast. SignatureLF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 : > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 : > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : > would : > work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas? : Whoa huge amounts of contrast. The Efke 25 is a very contrast prone film : & using it with PMK it was very very acute and lots of contrast. I do of course expect to do film speed and development time testing. I also expect to use a 5 min prewash if I use it with my Jobo. If using the Jobo is a problem I could use my combiplan to process up to 6 sheets of film at a time. Signature------------------- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you The thing to bear in mind with FX-1, is that in the working strength developer, there is just 0.5 gram of Metol, 5 grams of Sodium Sulphite, 2.5 grams of Sodium Carbonate (anhydrous) and 5 ml of a 0.001% solution of Potassium iodide per Litre so there may be a problem with the developer exhausting prematurely in the Jobo. The Combi-Plan would be the best option, but even with this, I would keep to just 4 sheets per tank load, otherwise you may find that you have negatives that are as flat as the proverbial pancake and are a pain to print. > I do of course expect to do film speed and development time testing. I > also > expect to use a 5 min prewash if I use it with my Jobo. If using the Jobo > is a problem I could use my combiplan to process up to 6 sheets of film at > a time. It looks like this is the approach that I'll take. I don't know if I'm going to like using 1liter per four sheets of film!! :-( : The thing to bear in mind with FX-1, is that in the working strength : developer, there is just 0.5 gram of Metol, 5 grams of Sodium Sulphite, 2.5 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : > is a problem I could use my combiplan to process up to 6 sheets of film at : > a time. Signature------------------- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you > : > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or > : > J&C-100 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > is a problem I could use my combiplan to process up to 6 sheets of film at > a time. Your going to find out, the F-KEE is 25 asa. My experience with FX was such that it produced a lot of contrast in tray processing PXP sheets. SignatureLF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 Jobo? You're an idiot, Frank, an idiot. EVERYBODY knows that developers like FX-1 are ACUTANCE developers. This means GENTLE, INTERMITTENT agitation is called for. NO JOBO! > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ------------------- > Keep working millions on welfare depend on you > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers > formularly. > Has anyone tried either of the films with FX-1? I'm also wondering how FX-1 would > work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas? I tried the Efke 25 and 50 films with R.Suzukis DS-12, something similar to the FX-1/Beutler formula. The results of my tests are found on http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/ The Efke 25/50 works well with these thin metol-developers, you have to be careful with processing (especially with the 25), the contrast gets high quickly. I found no real difference in acutance between development in a Jobo ATL and careful semi-stand development (10s agitation every 2min), so I just spare me the waiting and put everything in the ATL. However, Delta 100 or Acros developed with DS-12 shows similar fine grain and at least the same sharpness as Efke 25 and are 1 1/2 stops faster. Additionally, they have _much_ better handling qualities, so I will stop using the Efke film when my stock is gone, as long as Ilford/Fuji films are available. YMMV, as usual. Martin > I tried the Efke 25 and 50 films with R.Suzukis DS-12, something similar > to the FX-1/Beutler formula. The results of my tests are found on > > http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/ All I get is a parent directory. SignatureLF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 >> I tried the Efke 25 and 50 films with R.Suzukis DS-12, something similar >> to the FX-1/Beutler formula. The results of my tests are found on >> >> http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/ > All I get is a parent directory. That's correct. It includes the sensitometric test results I made last year. Martin Yes, the Delta 100 and Neopan 100 are as good as these slower films without the hassles. No need for those slow films any more. > > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 > > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Martin I`ve seen prints from Efke 25 and they`re O.K, personally I prefer Pan F Plus which is unfortunately not available in sheet film sizes. One photographer I know who uses 4x5, makes excellent prints from FP4 Plus souped in ID11 diluted 1+1, it`s hard to imagine them looking any sharper and the prints on 20x16 inch paper appear to be grainless. > Yes, the Delta 100 and Neopan 100 are as good as these slower films > without the hassles. No need for those slow films any more. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> >> Martin : > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100 : > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers : > formularly. : > Has anyone tried either of the films with FX-1? I'm also wondering how FX-1 would : > work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas? : I tried the Efke 25 and 50 films with R.Suzukis DS-12, something similar : to the FX-1/Beutler formula. The results of my tests are found on : http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/ : The Efke 25/50 works well with these thin metol-developers, you have to be : careful with processing (especially with the 25), the contrast gets high : quickly. I found no real difference in acutance between development in a : Jobo ATL and careful semi-stand development (10s agitation every 2min), : so I just spare me the waiting and put everything in the ATL. : However, Delta 100 or Acros developed with DS-12 shows similar fine : grain and at least the same sharpness as Efke 25 and are 1 1/2 stops : faster. Additionally, they have _much_ better handling qualities, so I : will stop using the Efke film when my stock is gone, as long as : Ilford/Fuji films are available. This going to mostly be an experiment. Unless I get spectacular results I'll be sticking with Tmmax-100. I tried Delta-100 and got good results with it. There are enough advantages to Tmax-100 that I stuck with it. Signature------------------- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you |
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