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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / August 2005Freestyle admits Arista = Ilford
I received an interesting email from Freestyle today, They state outright that their Arista line of films and papers is made by Ilford, and identical to the current Ilford line. They appear to be selling off the last of the Arista branded stuff; it is cheaper than their Ilford, so check it out: http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_main.php Excelsior, you fatheads! -Chris- > They appear to be selling off the last of the Arista branded stuff; it > is cheaper than their Ilford, so check it out: > > http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_main.php Probably in an effort to appease the new Ilford management.  SignatureLF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 >> They appear to be selling off the last of the Arista branded stuff; it >> is cheaper than their Ilford, so check it out: >> >> http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_main.php > > Probably in an effort to appease the new Ilford management. They've dumped Ilford for Kentmere paper and somebody else for film. They dumped Forte for Foma. Nick Signature--------------------------------------- "Digital the new ice fishing" --------------------------------------- > They've dumped Ilford for Kentmere paper and somebody else for film. They > dumped Forte for Foma. > > Nick I seem to believe Freestyle sells more B&W photo paper than B&H. SignatureLF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 To clarify, the preceding post applies only to Freestyle's Arista line. Arista II, Arista EDU and Arista PRO products *ARE NOT* manufactured by Ilford. Chris >I received an interesting email from Freestyle today, > They state outright that their Arista line of films and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Excelsior, you fatheads! > -Chris- It was never much of a secret that Arista film was made by Ilford. Arista paper was not. I am pretty sure it was Kentmere but don't know for certain. Ilford has decided not to sell it regular products for rebranding so current Arista film is not made by them. Actually, I think there are at least two and maybe three suppliers. Currently, Freestyle sells about three makes of papers under the general Arista name. Some is Kentmere, and is good stuff, I've been using it. Some is made in Czeckoslovakia, some in Hungary. Freestyle still caters to the 'wet' photographer although a large part of the Hollywood store is made over to digital. At least its not pushed into a corner as it is at Calumet. Kentmere, BTW, is a very old English company. Freestyle carries Kentmere paper both under its house brand and as Kentmere. Kentmere is privately held so has had an easier time adjusting to the shrinking market, they are likely to remain in business for some time. Ilford papers are among the most expensive but they are trying hard to maintain a line for us traditional photographers and I think should be supported. Signature--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com > It was never much of a secret that Arista film was made by > Ilford. Arista paper was not. I am pretty sure it was [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > trying hard to maintain a line for us traditional > photographers and I think should be supported. Arista claims that some papers were Ilford. here is a copy of the email: The Secret Is Out! Arista Brand Film and Paper was manufactured by Ilford/ We knew that educators and students needed to get the best value for their money, and Ilford knew it too. That's why Freestyle and Ilford teamed together to bring top-quality products to teachers and schools at terrific prices. Due to contractual obligations, we could not disclose the manufacturer as Ilford, but now the secret is out and all remaining Arista black and white products are available at their original prices until sold out. If you prefer to pay more for the branded product....fine, but if you want the SAME PRODUCT for less, then Arista is your BEST VALUE! But Hurry... It is only available while supplies last! Arista Classic Graded FB | is Ilford Galerie FB As low as $16.99 Arista Classic VC FB | is Ilford Multigrade IV-VC FB As low as $14.99 Arista Graded RC | is Ilford Ilfospeed RC As low as $12.99 Arista Premium RC VC | is Ilford Multigrade MG-IV RC DeLuxe As low as $10.99 Arista Plus RC VC | is Ilford MG RC Cooltone As low as $10.99 Arista Pro 50 | is Ilford Pan F Plus As low as $1.89 on 20 more Arista Pro 125 | is Ilford FP4 Plus As low as $24.99 Arista Pro 400 | is Ilford HP5 Plus As low as $14.99 Arista D-Max 100 | is Ilford Delta 100 As low as $2.49 on 20 or more Arista D-Max 400 | is Ilford Delta 400 As low as $2.59 on 20 or more Unsubscribe > Arista claims that some papers were Ilford. here is a copy of the email: > The Secret Is Out! Arista Brand Film and Paper was manufactured by Ilford > [blah, blah, blah...] My interpretation: o Freestyle had Ilford supply private label product. Under the agreement they could not say it was Ilford - otherwise Arista would cut into Ilford branded product. o Ilford will no longer supply private label, breaking the contract with Freestyle: Ilford doesn't supply Arista & and Freestyle doesn't have to keep schtum. o Freestyle has a heap of Ilford [er Arista] stuff to sell o Freestyle 'rebrands' [not the right word, but can't think of one] Arista as Ilford in order to sell off the old stock quickly. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. To reply, remove spaces: n o lindan at ix . netcom . com Fstop timer - http://www.nolindan.com/da/fstop/index.htm >> It was never much of a secret that Arista film was made by >> Ilford. Arista paper was not. I am pretty sure it was [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >The Secret Is Out! Arista Brand Film and Paper was manufactured by Ilford/ what secret? the guy behind the counter told me it was Ilford in 1988 THOM >We knew that educators and students needed to get the best value for their money, and Ilford knew it too. >That's why Freestyle and Ilford teamed together to bring top-quality products to teachers and schools at [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >As low as $2.59 on 20 or more >Unsubscribe > It was never much of a secret that Arista film was made by > Ilford. Arista paper was not. I am pretty sure it was > Kentmere but don't know for certain. Scott Griswold was a big fan of Arista Classic. He stated that he was told it was Galerie by an employee at Freestyle. He started using while settling a lawsuit with Kodak. Part of their settlement was a truck load of Elite. He seemed to prefer the Arista Classic to Elite. SignatureJohn - www.puresilver.org |
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