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Convert Noritsu 1501 to run b&w paper?

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robnor1@aol.com - 05 Aug 2005 03:56 GMT
Anyone know what needs to be done to the 1501 for it to be able to run
b&w paper other than putting the b&w chemistry in it and changing the
temps?

Robert
Mike King - 06 Aug 2005 17:54 GMT
Depends.  First of all, this type of Roller Transport will only run RC
papers.  If you want to run B&W and are not concerned about permanence just
use an RA-4 black and white paper.  If you want to run a VC paper, you'll
first need to figure out the developer and fixer times in the tanks with a
stop watch since speed is not variable in most RT units, then adjust your
temp, for example if developer and fixer times are 2 minutes (dev. time more
critical natch) you want a temp of no more than 75 deg. F/22 C if the times
are more like one minute you can settle for a temp in the 85F/27C range.  If
you can still find it, I would recommend Ektaflo R/T developer (check
Kodak's time and temp recommendations, this developer was made for Rapid
Rpller Transport processing) and a non-hardening rapid fixer (at film
strength if the times in the Developer and Fix tank are equal, at paper
dilution if the fix time is 2x development)  I haven't played with a 1501 in
a while sorry I can't be more precise.

BTW back to the VC thing, you can use cut sheet VC filters when printing
with VC paper, you just need to adjust exposure from the control console.
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> Anyone know what needs to be done to the 1501 for it to be able to run
> b&w paper other than putting the b&w chemistry in it and changing the
> temps?
>
> Robert
robnor1@aol.com - 08 Aug 2005 22:09 GMT
Thanks Mike,
I have a 1501 that we are not using anymore. We still do a good bit of
true b&w processing and printing. We currently do all the proofing on a
Durst mini printer and a 16" Kreonite. The 1501 would be much more
efficient. So you think all I need to do is put my b&w chemistry in the
1501 and adjust the tank temps?
On my Kreonite the time in the developer is 50 sec. Thanks.

Robert
Bernie - 09 Aug 2005 01:14 GMT
Robert, that's about it. You already have 45 second dev and fix times from
the RA-4 process, and a 90 second wash. One thing to remember is that there
are no non -plumbed specs for processing B&W materals, so if you can't
arrange for running water, forget stabilizer and fill the stab replenisher
tank with water. Max out the repl rate for it, and drain and refill the 4
stab tanks with fresh water daily so you don;t get into biogrowth problems.

I would set the temp at about 30C to make sure you don;t run into problems
with ambient room temp. You may be a little overdeveloped at 45 sec, but can
easily adjust for that with exposure.

Use Kodak Polymax RT Developer Repl at 20 mL/square foot and Polymax RT
Fixer Repl at 30 mL/square foot.

You can use the magenta/green and yellow/blue color correction buttons to
adjust contrast. +M and +B for hhigher contrast, +Y and +G for lower.
> Thanks Mike,
> I have a 1501 that we are not using anymore. We still do a good bit of
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> Robert
Mike King - 11 Aug 2005 06:21 GMT
Sounds about right, the Polymax R/T developer replaced Ektaflo (probably
just repackaged).  And as Bernie said look out for bio-slime!  You may be
able to plumb the stabilizer tank with tempered water and and overflow
(standpipe).  Depends on how far you are willing to modify your 1501.

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> Robert, that's about it. You already have 45 second dev and fix times from
> the RA-4 process, and a 90 second wash. One thing to remember is that there
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> > Robert
robnor1@aol.com - 15 Aug 2005 23:24 GMT
Thanks Mike.

Robert
robnor1@aol.com - 15 Aug 2005 23:22 GMT
Thanks Bernie,
I've been using Kodak Rapid Fix w/ no hardner in the Kreonite. Think
that will work OK in the 1501 or do I need to go with the Polymax Fix?

Robert
Bernie - 21 Aug 2005 20:29 GMT
Polymax RT Fix is the same as Rapid Fix Part A mixed 1:3 with no hardener
(Part B). They are interchangeable.
> Thanks Bernie,
> I've been using Kodak Rapid Fix w/ no hardner in the Kreonite. Think
> that will work OK in the 1501 or do I need to go with the Polymax Fix?
>
> Robert
 
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