Ok. This is something I've found out - you can get a good, even
distribution of the stuff by using a pastry brush. Works like a charm!
I'll add more as I discover it.
rts
>Ok. This is something I've found out - you can get a good, even
>distribution of the stuff by using a pastry brush. Works like a charm!
>I'll add more as I discover it.
>
>rts
August 3, 2005, from Lloyd Erlick,
A friend of mine in Toronto has been working
with home-made projection speed silver
emulsions for several years. He has been
coating them on materials like silk, cotton,
canvas, linen, etc. The results are stunning.
He has also experimented with adding colors
to the mix.
There is also the idea of double or multiple
coating. Irving Penn did this (in platinum
though, not silver). He coated a sheet,
exposed and processed it, then re-coated it
later with emulsion and did the second
exposure. The density of the blacks was
unbelievble. I saw one of his large platinum
prints many years ago and was impressed.
regards,
--le

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Rex the Strange - 03 Aug 2005 15:56 GMT
I tried a coating on a glass plate yesterday. Unfortunately it was
underexposed so it didn't quite turn out properly. I'll have to do it
again. However, I did discover something (from reading the instructions
- okay, maybe that's cheating ;) - giving your print extra long time in
the fixer causes the emusion to turn transparent which is perfect if
you want to print on glass.
The other advantage of the gelatin-on-glass method is that if you don't
like the result you can simply wash the emulsion off and start again
(which is what I will have to do). However, after being left overnight,
the emulsion dried out and became brittle - this, in itself, is not a
bad thing except that the transparent areas began to fog up. Perhaps
more time in the fixer? I gave it the recommended two minutes. Or maybe
it needs to solidify in darkness - this was left under our bright
kitchen lights. Next time I'll try leaving it in the darkroom.
I also tried it on a piece of cloth. The result is spectacular. Here's
a tip, though. Use a piece of cardboard as a backing board. The
emulsion will actually stick the fabric to the cardboard making it easy
to handle - simply treat it like a piece of photo paper. In fact, you
can use a piece of photo paper. Rockland Colloid, the manufacturers of
Liquid Light, suggest giving fabric two coats of the emulsion. I don't
think that's completely necessary, but I will try it to see if, maybe,
it gives more depth to the image. Also, if you use a piece of photo
paper as a backing board, don't make it an exposed one. I found that
the developer caused the exposed halides to lift off the paper and
leech into the fabric covering it with lots of little black dots. The
effect is interesting - possibly even desirable, but it completely
trashes all of your chemicals.
Dada - 05 Aug 2005 20:27 GMT
>I tried a coating on a glass plate yesterday. Unfortunately it was
>underexposed so it didn't quite turn out properly. I'll have to do it
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>effect is interesting - possibly even desirable, but it completely
>trashes all of your chemicals.
Sorry for my questions, they can be dull, but I have never used liquid
emulsion and I would like to. I have found a 16 oz pack. It is a few
quantity or not for your uses? How long it last to you? Have it to be
used as soon as applied on a surface, or it can be used later? Also I
wander what kind of ISO sensibility it has, to use as pinhole
photography...maybe 8? As paper?
And what about developing? Is like an FB paper?
Many questions, sorry, but I do not know anything about it.
Rex the Strange - 05 Aug 2005 21:23 GMT
> Sorry for my questions, they can be dull, but I have never used liquid
> emulsion and I would like to. I have found a 16 oz pack. It is a few
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> And what about developing? Is like an FB paper?
> Many questions, sorry, but I do not know anything about it.
All good questions and they're the same ones I had when I first started
with it. One at a time:
1 - I also bought a 16 oz bottle which I thought was kind of pricey,
but it does go a long way. Start with the smallest bottle to
experiment. I've done three 5x7 projects and have not even put a dent
in the bottle. I expect it will last quite a while.
2 - Some items need priming, but once the emulsion is put on the
surface it can be exposed after a couple of minutes. It turns to a gel
under 115 degrees, so you need to heat it to make it a liquid and then
apply. I kept it in the refrigerator overnight and found that gave me a
nice firm surface.
3 - The stuff I got (Rockland Colloid Liquid Light) is slightly less
reactive than your average photo paper. Yes, you could use it in a
pinhole camera and you process it with standard processing techniques
(developer, stop, fix, rinse).
Get a bottle and try it!
Dada - 05 Aug 2005 22:27 GMT
>3 - The stuff I got (Rockland Colloid Liquid Light) is slightly less
>reactive than your average photo paper. Yes, you could use it in a
>pinhole camera and you process it with standard processing techniques
>(developer, stop, fix, rinse).
>
>Get a bottle and try it!
Perfect. But the development must be like FB paper or RC paper? It's a
little different in times.
I really want to try it. Is easy to handle. You need to use gloves or
it doesn't matter?
Rex the Strange - 08 Aug 2005 21:49 GMT
No gloves. Fairly easy to handle although I discovered over the weekend
that it's best to add a small amount to your whatever, spread it
around, add a little more etc, because it's so watery when liquid that
it easily runs off your whatever and onto your lap/shoes/floor.
Don't know about times, precisely. You need to experiment a bit. I
still haven't got exposure quite right.
You can read about my experiments on my new blog: Shoot First
(http://www.rexthestrange.com/shootfirst)