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UC - 21 Jul 2005 17:30 GMT
Make that Sony, adidas, Coca-Cola
Keith Tapscott - 21 Jul 2005 19:20 GMT
Didn`t Kodak used to be a once great photographic company? I wonder what
George Eastman would say, if he could see it now.
http://www.apug.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17434

> Make that Sony, adidas, Coca-Cola
UC - 21 Jul 2005 19:58 GMT
It is not Photomat, Fuji, digital, etc., that has caused Kodak's
problems. It is Kodak themselves.

Kodak knuckled under to anti-trust laws that were clearly
unconstitutional. Kodak didn't even fight. They simply consented. They
lay down like dogs and licked the government's hands.

They deserve everything they are getting.

> Didn`t Kodak used to be a once great photographic company? I wonder what
> George Eastman would say, if he could see it now.
> http://www.apug.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17434
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> > Make that Sony, adidas, Coca-Cola
Richard Knoppow - 22 Jul 2005 02:38 GMT
> It is not Photomat, Fuji, digital, etc., that has caused
> Kodak's
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> They deserve everything they are getting.

 Which anti-trust laws? Do you mean the forced selling of
aquired companies c.1915 or something later. In any case,
Kodak's problems are due to a changing market. I think Kodak
might have successfully challenged the ruling against them
in the Polaroid suit but that was a patent infringement
case, not an anti-trust case.
 I really am interested in which laws you mean and in what
way you think they are unconstitutional.

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UC - 22 Jul 2005 14:59 GMT
Kodak invented the photo business, for all practical purposes, and was
mercilessly hounded by the govenment. See the 1921, 1954 rulings, etc.
Kodak at one time bundled film processing with film purchase
(Kodachrome and Kodacolor). The anti-trust law was used to stop this.
Other companies were allowed to do it, however, including Agfa.
Agfachrome was very popular in the late 1960's and early 1970's. You
paid for processing at the time of purchase.

> > It is not Photomat, Fuji, digital, etc., that has caused
> > Kodak's
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Richard Knoppow - 22 Jul 2005 02:34 GMT
> Didn`t Kodak used to be a once great photographic company?
> I wonder what George Eastman would say, if he could see it
> now.
> http://www.apug.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17434
>
>> Make that Sony, adidas, Coca-Cola

  I wonder. I think Kodak will maintain the standing of its
name. In fact, I think it is using the name to establish its
place in digital photography.
  George Eastman recognized that photography was limited to
a few specialists due to the special skills involved. What
he did was to make photography available to amateurs and to
those who were not even amateurs, that is, their only
interest in photograpy was to get snapshots of the family or
travels. Eastman did this by doing all the hard part at the
factory.
  I think digital photography falls right in to this kind
of picture taking. A simple camera (well not so simple
because of the excessively complex menues on some cameras),
that is cheap to operate and requires little or no skil on
the part of the user. One can take memory chips to a store
and have prints made or have it transferred to a disc. Of
course, one can also do this at home, but, just as operating
a darkroom requires some additional skills, transferring
pictures from a memory chip and printing them requires a
little skill.
  The only thing I have against digital photography is that
it is robbing me of the supplies I need for a hobby I enjoy
very much and have had all my life.
  I have some knowledge of digital imaging. In fact, I work
for a television network here in Los Angeles, in the
engineering department of the network center. We are all
digital and have been for years. Digital photography is too
much like what I do for a living. BTW, while I have
accumulated some stock of knowledge about chemical
photography, I am far from being an expert on digital
photography or even digital television. Both are enormounsly
complex fields, with many areas of special knowledge and are
constantly changing.
  Kodak's management is doing what it must to preserve the
company as an attractive investment. They have had to change
the emphasis on product because the product the company grew
up making is no long in demand by a mass market. George
Eastman was above all an excellent business man. If he were
alive now I think he would be another Bill Gates.
    I strongly recommend Elizabeth Brayer's biography of
George Eastman, she is the only biographer who had full
access to the company's archives.

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UC - 22 Jul 2005 15:07 GMT
Kaodak's profit margins on digital are far from the margins it has
enjoyed on halide products. Kodak should be doing everything within its
power to preserve and expand halide product markets. Even if Kodak is
#1 in digital, so what? The profits are not there! Revenues mean
nothing without profits.

There is room for both halide and digital. It's not an 'either-or'
situation. Kodak would be smarter not to run down it halide business in
order to pay for digital. That's suicide.

> > Didn`t Kodak used to be a once great photographic company?
> > I wonder what George Eastman would say, if he could see it
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> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@ix.netcom.com
 
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