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Lew - 07 May 2005 20:07 GMT
My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
there made any more? By whom?
Thanks.
-Lew
Jean-David Beyer - 07 May 2005 20:12 GMT
> My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
> something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
> there made any more? By whom?
> Thanks.
> -Lew

Jobo 2500 series tanks will do that. But they if used as inversion tanks,
they take an awful lot of solution. They are meant for rotary processing.

http://www.jobo-usa.com/products/2500.htm

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Frank Pittel - 07 May 2005 20:42 GMT
: > My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
: > something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
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: Jobo 2500 series tanks will do that. But they if used as inversion tanks,
: they take an awful lot of solution. They are meant for rotary processing.

: http://www.jobo-usa.com/products/2500.htm

The 1500 series tanks and reels also allow for two 120 rolls on a reel and
use a lot less chemistry!
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Lloyd Erlick - 07 May 2005 21:12 GMT
>My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
>something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
>there made any more? By whom?
>Thanks.
>-Lew

may705 from Lloyd Erlick,

The Jobo 1501 series plastic spirals are adjustable and accept up to
five feet of 35mm film or one or two 120-format rolls of thirty inches
each. The spiral comes with a small red plastic tab that will separate
two strips of 120 film. However, I have never had a problem with the
strips of film overlapping (this is an almost impossible
circumstance). I have removed the red tabs from my reels.

The 1501 reels can be contained by any ordinary processing tank, or a
homemade tank. I use five 1501 reels to process ten rolls of 120 film
in a series of plain sixteen-inch cylindrical tanks (four inch
diameter) set up in a sink. Processing is in total darkness.

regards,
--le
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Lew - 07 May 2005 22:01 GMT
How could you see what you're doing?
-Lew
>  Processing is in total darkness.
>
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Lew - 07 May 2005 22:19 GMT
...and can I do my normal, manual, inversion processing with the 1500's? How
much soup do they take?
-Lew
Nick Zentena - 08 May 2005 14:43 GMT
> ...and can I do my normal, manual, inversion processing with the 1500's? How
> much soup do they take?

 You can do inversion processing with any of the Jobo tanks. The bigger
ones hold more solution so you'll build up more muscle. That's the only
downside. OTOH if you use dilute developer it can be a positive. All
depends. The 1500 tanks use less solution then the Patterson tanks. Go to
the Jobo USA website and check out the specs for the 1500.

     Just make sure the tank you get comes with the basic lid with a
red rubber cap and not the cog lid.

Nick
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Andrew Price - 08 May 2005 20:01 GMT
>...and can I do my normal, manual, inversion processing with the 1500's?

Yes, no problem.

>How
>much soup do they take?

About 50cc - enough to process two 120 films (on one reel) or two 135
films (on two reels).
Lloyd Erlick - 08 May 2005 13:59 GMT
>How could you see what you're doing?
>-Lew
>>  Processing is in total darkness.

may805 from Lloyd Erlick,

It's much easier than it sounds. Just a matter of getting used to the
darkroom, where everything is placed around the sink, etc. I set all
the tanks out in proper sequence, positioned so I can find them easily
in the dark. Once the lights are out all I need to do is remove the
reels from their dry, light-tight tank, slip them into the first
solution (already in its open tank) and then lift the reels at
intervals into the next solutions. Very simple, really, and very
pleasant, too. It's twenty minutes of peace for me.

I wrote an article about making a set of developing tanks from
four-inch ABS plastic drain pipe. It's on my website.

regards,
--le
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Nicholas O. Lindan - 07 May 2005 21:21 GMT
> My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
> something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
> there made any more? By whom?

FR tanks pop up on ebay.

I take it you want to load one roll from the center out and
slide another roll in from the rim [?]

I can add the information that Patterson tanks _don't_ have
a central clip and the spiral doesn't have a lead-in at the core.

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Lew - 07 May 2005 22:03 GMT
The problem with the FR tanks is that they're brittle from age, so eBay
won't help. Anyway, fyi, you could wriggle both rolls in from the outside,
no center loading or clip needed.
-Lew

>> My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
>> something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
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> I can add the information that Patterson tanks _don't_ have
> a central clip and the spiral doesn't have a lead-in at the core.
Nick Zentena - 07 May 2005 21:33 GMT
> My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
> something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
> there made any more? By whom?

 Jobo. I'm not sure about the smaller 1500 tanks but the bigger 2500 tanks
easily handle 220 or 2 rolls of 120. Plus everything else from 4x5 on down
to at least 35mm.

  Nick

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Andrew Price - 08 May 2005 01:08 GMT
>Jobo. I'm not sure about the smaller 1500 tanks but the bigger 2500 tanks
>easily handle 220 or 2 rolls of 120.

The 1500 tanks will also handle 2 rolls of 120.
Robert Feinman - 08 May 2005 16:09 GMT
> My old FR tanks are falling to pieces so I'm looking to replace them with
> something that allows 2 120 rolls to be loaded into a single spool. Are
> there made any more? By whom?
> Thanks.
> -Lew

Patterson sold a platic tank and reel that would take 220. I don't
know if they are still on the market.

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