Thank both of you for your answers.
Actually I forgot to put some more detail. The developer is self made,
the formula as follow:
NaOH: 7gr
Ascorbic acid: 1 gr
Hydroquinone: 2 gr
Tap water: 1 liter
it's woth to remember to any reader how is dangerous the NaOH - pay
attention to protect yourself and use cold water.
I added the ascorbic acid just to avoid a fast oxidation. I tried with
some sodium sulfite (5 gr per liter) but there is no more the lith
effect. It keeps for 1 hours more or less, I know too short, but
enough to develope some paper. With Agfa MCC it works very fine, with
a smooth infectious development. With Agfa MCP instead it's very fast,
very high contrast and difficult to control, not recomended. The
overall tone is just slightly warm.
The staining I had I think it's due to exausted developer. As I
understand, no way to remove it... Ok, not a big issue.
Regards
Elia Freddi
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> Thank both of you for your answers.
> Actually I forgot to put some more detail. The developer is self made,
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> Hydroquinone: 2 gr
> Tap water: 1 liter
Interesting formula. That's all one needs for a lith developer;
Alkali, preservative, and hydroquinone. I almost forgot, OXYGEN. A
carbonate will do for the alkali and sulfite for the preservative
and air for the OXYGEN.
A year ago, with no intention, I compounded a lith developer. A
protracted development gave interesting results. With some study and
further tests I confirmed it was the lith phenomenon.
> I added the ascorbic acid just to avoid a fast oxidation. I tried with
> some sodium sulfite (5 gr per liter) but there is no more the lith
> effect.
If you care to, test some more with sulfite and carbonate. Put only a
little developer in the tray; no more than 250ml on an 8 x 10 basis.
Allow at least 8 minutes for the lith effect to generate. More or
less time may be the case.
There was an English site on the WWW with a lot of lith formulas. I
see just now it has been droped. A German version still exists. Wall's
Normal Hydroquinone lith developer may be of interest. Dan
PATRICK GAINER - 25 May 2005 01:07 GMT
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Hydroquinone used as in your formula is a tanning-staining developer in
the class of catechol. A small amount of sulfite will eliminate the
staining, but the staining is what gives it a warm tone effect. The
stain is redder than pyrogallol's and not as resistant to sulfite. The
stain is a dye formed when hydroquinone is oxidized, and it is quite
permanent AFIK.
I would suggest keeping the developing agents and NaOH or other alkali
in separate solutions to be mixed just before use, as the oxidation
begins soon after mixing.
dan.c.quinn@att.net - 27 May 2005 23:59 GMT
> > NaOH: 7gr
> > Ascorbic acid: 1 gr
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> protracted development gave interesting results. With some study
> and further tests I confirmed it was the lith phenomenon.
I mentioned oxygen. I will expand on that. For the lith
phenomena to take place oxygen is NOT needed BUT is always present.
Some may not take that into account. I do because I use very dilute
minimal volume solutions. That oxygen will destroy sulfite or A.
acid more quickly where small volume, highly dilute solutions
are used. Low preservative levels are needed with lith
developers. Search this NG for, semiquinone .
> > I added the ascorbic acid just to avoid a fast oxidation. I
> > tried with some sodium sulfite (5 gr per liter) but there
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> see just now it has been droped. A German version still exists. Wall's
> Normal Hydroquinone lith developer may be of interest. Dan
That site with a lot of lith formulas is back. From Google
search for, "lith formulas" . I've perhaps half a dozen 'lith'
formulas, not counting my own, which do not require a hydroxide
or formaldehyde. Lith? I suppose so. I wonder if Dr. Gudzinowicz
ever got around to working with Wall's Normal Hydroquinone? Dan