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C-41 split developer

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Frank Earl - 05 May 2005 02:07 GMT
Would anyone share the formula and process for the C-41 split developer?
 The one that was initially published in Darkroom Techniques (Photo
Techniques) magazine years back.  The process was relatively temperature
independent.  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Francis A. Miniter - 05 May 2005 03:42 GMT
If you know about what year that was, I can check.  I have almost all the issues.

Francis A. Miniter

> Would anyone share the formula and process for the C-41 split developer?
>  The one that was initially published in Darkroom Techniques (Photo
> Techniques) magazine years back.  The process was relatively temperature
> independent.  Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks
Jordan W. - 05 May 2005 14:58 GMT
Frank and others,

I have this scribbled down at home and will try to remember to fish
it out when I get home tonight. From what I remember it was from
Patrick Dignan and appears in an issue from around 1994 (very close
to when they did the name change, it was tricky to find at the
library for that reason).

I have not tried the formula, though.

Jordan

> Would anyone share the formula and process for the C-41 split developer?
>  The one that was initially published in Darkroom Techniques (Photo
> Techniques) magazine years back.  The process was relatively temperature
 independent.  Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks
Robert Vervoordt - 05 May 2005 18:32 GMT
>Frank and others,
>
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>  independent.  Any help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks

Dignan held a contest for divided color formulae, then patented some
variation of what is prior art.  

Just double the developing agent in the A bath and the alkali in the B
bath.

I used my version, formulated long before Dignan's ripoff for
everything;  Kodak, Fuji, Agfa, Ferrania, and movie short ends.  The
thing does just what you'd expect.

Robert Vervoordt, MFA
Francis A. Miniter - 06 May 2005 05:19 GMT
I found it.  Darkroom & Creative Techniques, Nov-Dec. 1995, p.40, Patrick
Dignan, "A Divided Color Developing Solution that Really Works".

He gives the Dignan NCF-41 Formula as follows:

A Bath

Water (distilled): 300 ml
Sodium Bisulfite : 0.5 g.
CD-4 : 5.5 g.
Sodium Sulfite : 4.5 g.
Water (distilled) to make 500 ml.

pH @ 75° : up to 6.5

B Bath

Water (distilled) 500: ml
Potassium Carbonate : 53 g.
Potassium Bromide : 0.5 g.
Benzotriazole (Kodak Anti-Fog #2) : 2 mg. (not used in tests described in text)
Water (distilled) to make  : 1 liter

pH @ 75° : 11.8

Developing temperature : 75°

3:00 min in A Bath with continuous or intermittent agitation
5:45 min in B Bath with agitation of your choice
Stop Bath
Blix (note at 75°, it will take longer to do its job than at 100°)

Francis A. Miniter

> Frank and others,
>
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>
>> Thanks
sreenath - 06 May 2005 06:45 GMT
I tried it on Kodak TCN400 film, a C41 process B/W film(120 format)

Since I did not have potassium carbonate, I used sodium carbonate.

I got very thin negatives. The image was visible, but very faint one.
Perhaps potassium carbonate is essential for the working, I am not
sure.

Also, the bottle in which I stored bath-A developed a huge amount of
sludge over time.

-Sreenath

> I found it.  Darkroom & Creative Techniques, Nov-Dec. 1995, p.40, Patrick
> Dignan, "A Divided Color Developing Solution that Really Works".
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> >
> >> Thanks
Robert Vervoordt - 06 May 2005 15:15 GMT
>I tried it on Kodak TCN400 film, a C41 process B/W film(120 format)
>
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>Perhaps potassium carbonate is essential for the working, I am not
>sure.

I have found that the Potassium salt is more active in this sort of
formulation.  It turned out to be so in my Cibachrome formulations.

>Also, the bottle in which I stored bath-A developed a huge amount of
>sludge over time.

Juist a small amount for me over a very long period of use.  Could be
water problems.  Just filter it out if it still works.

>-Sreenath
>
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>> >
>> >> Thanks

Robert Vervoordt, MFA
 
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