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Black Foam core board over window

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winddancing - 24 Apr 2005 02:35 GMT
There are many types of solid black foam cord board.  Suggestions on which
to avoid.  Suggestions wanted re: taping for easy removal wanted too.
"Experience"  can be costly and frustrating.  We all don't have to invent
the wheel if you can share yours.  TIA
Gregory Blank - 24 Apr 2005 03:46 GMT
> There are many types of solid black foam cord board.  Suggestions on which
> to avoid.  Suggestions wanted re: taping for easy removal wanted too.
> "Experience"  can be costly and frustrating.  We all don't have to invent
> the wheel if you can share yours.  TIA

Personally I think Black foam core is a little too rigid,blackout cloth
with velcro probably works best,...to each their own.

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jjs - 24 Apr 2005 03:59 GMT
> There are many types of solid black foam cord board.  Suggestions on which
> to avoid.  Suggestions wanted re: taping for easy removal wanted too.
> "Experience"  can be costly and frustrating.  We all don't have to invent
> the wheel if you can share yours.  TIA

Covering a window with black material is a bad idea, unless it is always in
shade. Black material sealed behind glass will turn sunlight into enough
heat to melt and weaken plastics and cause outgassing in some materials.  I
used black material on a south window during a Minnesota winter and it still
got hot. All you need is anything that is opaque and reflective. Tape? Do
not use 'duct' tape or masking tape. It leaves a sticky residue. 3M makes a
tape specifically for window sealing. See their window winterizing kits. It
is made to be removed without damage.

Hope this helps.
Nicholas O. Lindan - 24 Apr 2005 18:51 GMT
> Covering a window with black material is a bad idea, unless it is always in
> shade. Black material sealed behind glass will turn sunlight into enough
> heat to melt and weaken plastics and cause outgassing in some materials.

Been there, done that, don't remember any problems: YMMV - how tight is
the window, how much does the wind blow, how insulating is the panel?

If this is a problem then paint the window side of the panel white.

For appearances I have $3.75 venetian blinds in the blacked out windows.
Faded masonite brown just doesn't look that good.

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jjs - 25 Apr 2005 02:39 GMT
> For appearances I have $3.75 venetian blinds in the blacked out windows.
> Faded masonite brown just doesn't look that good.

Now that's a good idea.
Stefan Patric - 24 Apr 2005 04:42 GMT
> There are many types of solid black foam cord board.  Suggestions on
> which
> to avoid.  Suggestions wanted re: taping for easy removal wanted too.
> "Experience"  can be costly and frustrating.  We all don't have to
> invent
> the wheel if you can share yours.  TIA

In the temporary bathroom/darkrooms I've had over the years, I just used
a piece of 1/8 inch masonite a little smaller than the window opening
with foam weather stripping affixed around the edges, and wedged it
into the window opening.  A small handle or knob attached to the center
of the masonite helped getting it in and out of the opening.  Worked
really well, even in the brightest of daylight.  No leaks.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 24 Apr 2005 19:00 GMT
> In the temporary bathroom/darkrooms I've had over the years, I just used
> a piece of 1/8 inch masonite a little smaller than the window opening
> with foam weather stripping affixed around the edges, and wedged it
> into the window opening.

Same here, but had a frame attached to the masonite, the frame slid
over the window molding.  Small holes were drilled through the frame
and into the window molding, coat-hanger-wire pins were inserted
through the holes to keep the panels on.  A skirt of black velvet draped
over the window sill.

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Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Consulting Engineer:  Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.
To reply, remove spaces: n o lindan at ix  . netcom . com
psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/

Nick Zentena - 24 Apr 2005 11:24 GMT
> There are many types of solid black foam cord board.  Suggestions on which
> to avoid.  Suggestions wanted re: taping for easy removal wanted too.
> "Experience"  can be costly and frustrating.  We all don't have to invent
> the wheel if you can share yours.  TIA

 What's wrong with cardboard? Cut it a little big and it'll hold itself in
place. Use a heavy drape over that and no light. Easy to remove. No damage.
 
 Nick
 
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