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jjs - 16 Apr 2005 06:38 GMT
http://www.retrophotographic.com/PDFs/Rollei.pdf

Reads almost too good to be true.
Peter De Smidt - 16 Apr 2005 06:54 GMT
> http://www.retrophotographic.com/PDFs/Rollei.pdf
>
> Reads almost too good to be true.

From the user reports that I've seen, it is too good to be true.

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Frank Pittel - 16 Apr 2005 09:31 GMT
: http://www.retrophotographic.com/PDFs/Rollei.pdf

: Reads almost too good to be true.

Where can I get a few boxes!!!

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dan.c.quinn@att.net - 17 Apr 2005 23:38 GMT
> Reads almost too good to be true.

 Looks interesting. One chart showed .25 Fb+f. A Pan-ISO
film; an all or any speed film, ISO 25 - 6400. D-76 speeds
of 200 to 400 are indicated. Reads somewhat like Delta 3200
with it's multi emulsion. You don't suppose it a chromagenic
in disguise? Dan
Gregory Blank - 18 Apr 2005 04:29 GMT
> > Reads almost too good to be true.
>
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> with it's multi emulsion. You don't suppose it a chromagenic
> in disguise? Dan

Now think about that question,...how many chromagenic
films are developed in D76. Usually its in C41.

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Jan T - 18 Apr 2005 19:34 GMT
Let me quote an article by Philippe Bachelier in Réponses Photo (French),
issue march 2005.

Positive: multiple formats, high definition, nice grain.
Negative: cassettes sensitive to light, quesionable results when in comes to
real speed ("25-6400 ISO fantaisistes" must be clear to all of us),
expensive, needs dedicated developers.

The author's verdict: the film is a good surprise in a period where film
photography is questioned, Rollei's initiative gets a bravo for that.
Nevertheless, the characteristics of the film make it a niche-market product
rather than a general purpose one, the more because of it's price (50% more
expensive than Tri-X or HP5). It's infrared sensibility allows for
particular effects but easily causes fog as soon as the film leaves the
cassette (....) The indicated speed of 25-6400 ISO is a fantasy. Announcing
good results between 50 and 800 would have been more credible. OTOH, with
Rollei's dedicated developers, the film gives very satisfying image quality
if one likes the high definition effects: sharp-edged contours and a sharp
and fine grain.

End of quote.

Apart from the "speed fantasy", not bad, I'd say.

Jan

| > > Reads almost too good to be true.
| >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
| Now think about that question,...how many chromagenic
| films are developed in D76. Usually its in C41.
jjs - 19 Apr 2005 02:03 GMT
> The author's verdict: the film is a good surprise in a period where film
> photography is questioned, Rollei's initiative gets a bravo for that.
> Nevertheless, the characteristics of the film make it a niche-market
> product
> rather than a general purpose one, [...]

Given that Rollei put this information on the 'net, then it might behoove
them to put up image files relating to each of their claims. It can be done
with the correct metrics included. But will they? Are they up to it? I
seriously doubt it. So, until they make it real, I consider their claims
just more PR, Marketing bullshit.
Jan T - 19 Apr 2005 18:52 GMT
Good translation in human language.

| > The author's verdict: the film is a good surprise in a period where film
| > photography is questioned, Rollei's initiative gets a bravo for that.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
| seriously doubt it. So, until they make it real, I consider their claims
| just more PR, Marketing bullshit.
dan.c.quinn@att.net - 19 Apr 2005 23:29 GMT
I liked the part where they said that the only reason for
an acid stop is to maintain the ph of the fixer. They suggest
two, thirty second water rinses.  Dan
 
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