Agfa Pan-X 400 / D76 times

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Max - 27 Feb 2005 02:08 GMT

Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
me. I'm developing it in D76 at roughly 1:1 and 12 minutes isn't cutting
it. I'm just about to shoot a concert with it and I'd like to know if
anyone else is having this same problem. I looked on Agfa's website and
could only find times and dilutions for rodinol, which I guess is to be
expected. Any ideas?

- max

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Luka Gojceta - 27 Feb 2005 14:21 GMT

Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

> Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
> papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
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> - max

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jjs - 27 Feb 2005 15:03 GMT

> Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
> 1:1) = 12 min

That's pretty much a standard recommendation by the manufacturer and where
Digital Truth might be correct. For the most part, I find their data for
nonstandard times closer to impressionism and guessing.

Earlier someone had asked about high-dilution D-76 (1:30 and higher). I have
a feeling that D-76's may not even work in high dilutions. Has anyone
insight into that issue?

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Max - 28 Feb 2005 00:42 GMT

This is probably more of my inexperience than it is my powerful insight
into the issue, but I've never diluted D76 more than 1:4 and had
anything remotely desirable happen as a result.

( thanks for the recommendation btw; I'll try it tomorrow when I develop
the pictures I shot at the show last night )

- max

>>Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
>>1:1) = 12 min
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> a feeling that D-76's may not even work in high dilutions. Has anyone
> insight into that issue?

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Richard Knoppow - 03 Mar 2005 22:22 GMT

>> Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in
>> d76 (stock, not
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> work in high dilutions. Has anyone insight into that
> issue?

I just wrote a reply to the same post. I also doubt if
D-76 will develop at all at these high dilutions. It might
if given many hours, maybe an interesting science
experiment:-) As for Agfa times, I've found a good guide is
to look at Agfa's recommended times for Rodinal. Rodinal
time at 1:25 is about right for stock D-76, Rodinal 1:50
time is about right for D-76 at 1:1. This will at least show
if the times from some other source are in the ball park.
Agfa films seem to develop slowly. In the 1950's Kodak film
guides D-76 show development times on the order of 12 to 20
minutes for stock D-76, most modern films develop in perhaps
a third of these times. I think this is a reflection of
differences in the emulsions not in the target contrast.

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Bob Hickey - 10 Mar 2005 20:07 GMT

> Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
> 1:1) = 12 min
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> According to my trusty Agfa guide: APX 400 @ 68 deg

calls for D76 stock for 10 mins, 1:1 for 14 mins.
Bob Hickey

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Max - 11 Mar 2005 11:46 GMT

I tried 1:1 for 14 minutes. Stock at 12 minutes worked perfectly. Anyone
know how to exploit the red sensitivity of APX 400? I hear rumours about it.

Thanks,

- max

>>Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
>>1:1) = 12 min
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> calls for D76 stock for 10 mins, 1:1 for 14 mins.
> Bob Hickey

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