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First what do you mean that you have forced into a higher speed
lifestyle. You do speak english? Thingie?
A lead bag is the best way at an airport to get your film destroyed
and it will almost guarantee that someone will "RIP" open open your
bags to get at what may be seen on the monitor as a black unknown
space. Think "Hand check".
Anyway I hope this helps clarify.

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Art Reitsch - 24 Feb 2005 15:23 GMT
My conclusion after reading this ng several times on this subject is to
ship film ahead, and ship it home after the trip. Ship it to whom? A
workshop leader, the motel you're staying at, a photo store ..... something.
Art
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Gregory Blank - 24 Feb 2005 15:55 GMT
> My conclusion after reading this ng several times on this subject is to
> ship film ahead, and ship it home after the trip. Ship it to whom? A
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I agree.....but for the casual photographer that might be a lot
more bother and more expense than he's willing to pay.
You or me is probably another story and worth the investment
of advance shipping.

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Max - 24 Feb 2005 17:07 GMT
> First what do you mean that you have forced into a higher speed
> lifestyle. You do speak english? Thingie?
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> Anyway I hope this helps clarify.
"forced into a higher speed lifestyle" is my roundabout way of saying
that I favour pushing 400 film into the thousands regularly. I do speak
English, and "thingie" is a perfectly acceptable word.
I thought about a hand check; I find them kind of humorous because it
seems to me that if I was sneaking coke through the airport in my film,
they wouldn't figure it out that way. I've done the ship ahead thing and
that worked pretty well for me, so maybe that's the answer. Besides, my
lead bag is too small to carry the amount of film I'm planning on
bringing with me. But aren't packages x-rayed sometimes too?
Plus, re: the hassle of shipping film, it's actually not that bad. The
US post office will ship "media" at a highly discounted rate, and film
counts as media to them. The last time I shipped film I managed to get
half a pound or so cross country for less than a couple of dollars.
Thanks,
- max
Louie Powell - 24 Feb 2005 20:53 GMT
> "forced into a higher speed lifestyle" is my roundabout way of saying
> that I favour pushing 400 film into the thousands regularly. I do speak
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Max -
I traveled extensively in my former career as an engineer - over
1,750,000 air miles including every continent except Australia and
Antartica. I learned early on that the inspection process is not logical
- there was the inspector who insisted on looking between each of the 100
or so sheets of paper in a note pad. I also learned the value of
inspection - and I don't care to repeat the experience of having to slide
down the escape chutes in an emergency evacuation of an aircraft that is
reported to have a bomb on board.
I've carried a camera in my briefcase on every trip since 1978. In every
instance, the camera and a few rolls of film - either HP5 of T-max 400 -
were in a lead bag. In about 20% of the instances, the presence of the
lead bag triggered a hand inspection. My practice was to always allow
enough time for my briefcase to be manually searched if the inspectors
wanted to do that.
In North America, and in most parts of Western Europe and Asia, the
amount of radiation that your film will be exposed to on the course of a
trip will not cause significant damage to EI 400 film. And contrary to
the assertions of some on these news groups - it is simply not possible
for the inspectors in these parts of the world to "turn up" the x-ray
machine when they see the shadow of the lead bag. They can increase the
intensification of the image on the monitor, but for safety reasons they
cannot increase the level of x-ray radiation. I wouldn't assume that to
be the case in more primitive areas of the world, however.
> taking my 400 film through the airport x-ray.
Continental, at least in Cleveland/San Fran/UK Gatwick,
is bad news for film. Baggage is CAT-Scanned, 400-CN
film is consistently fogged.

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