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Colored safelight *bulbs* still available?

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Stephan Goldstein - 01 Dec 2004 11:30 GMT
When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
a "Mazda"-type bulb, i.e. unfrosted with visible filament and red-
colored glass. During my life's travels that bulb has disappeared,
but now I find myself in need of it or something like it.  I looked
on the B&H site but saw nothing like this.  Does anyone still
sell these?  Yes, I know other solutions are possible, but this
would be by far the least expensive way to shed a little safe light
in a dark corner of my B&W darkroom.

TIA

Steve

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Louie Powell - 01 Dec 2004 11:35 GMT
> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
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>
> Steve

Steve - it is still possible to get those small (15 w) red bulbs that
have a standard Mazda base and that are slightly smaller than a golf
ball.  I would look at Home Despot or Lowes.  I used one of those when I
first set up a darkroom, and I still get it out if I need an additional
safelight in a dark corner of my darkroom.

Louie
Stephan Goldstein - 01 Dec 2004 11:38 GMT
>Steve - it is still possible to get those small (15 w) red bulbs that
>have a standard Mazda base and that are slightly smaller than a golf
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>
>Louie

Thanks!  I've got a HD on my way to work (more or less) and a Lowes
close by the office.
Stephan Goldstein - 01 Dec 2004 11:39 GMT
>> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
>> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
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>
>Louie

Thanks!  I've got an HD on the way to work (more or less) and a Lowes
not far from the office.  I'll check them today.
Nick Zentena - 01 Dec 2004 13:35 GMT
> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
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> would be by far the least expensive way to shed a little safe light
> in a dark corner of my B&W darkroom.

 Sure. Any place claiming to have a darkroom section will stock them. But
they're only cheaper if you never need to replace them. You can get a brand
new 5x7 light for not much more.

   If you just get a red bulb from a non-darkroom source make sure you test
it well. OTOH test any safe light well.

  Nick
Mike King - 01 Dec 2004 15:25 GMT
Well...if you must, try this link in Freestyle sales:
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=2108&pid=6007

The last time I saw the CLEAR red or amber glass safelite bulbs, made with
ruby or amber colored glass, they were not cheap (like $10-20), the painted
ones are cheap but how safe they really are is anyone's guess.  I guess when
I can buy a 10x12 Kodak Utility Safelite (model D?) for ten bucks with
filter at a swap meet I'm not very interested in the alternatives.  (Even
better, I bought a Thomas with filters and bulb for $45.00--use that
safelight and you just don't have any dark corners!)  I worked in a place
that sold the cheap painted ones and used them in their darkroom and recall
many quality moments spent patching the coatings on those bulbs with heat
resistant black paint to blot out all the dang-blasted white pinholes.  BTW,
the ones made with colored glass were really intended for graphic arts
applications and may transmit too much of the wrong color light to be really
safe around VC papers.

But if $10 is really too much?  Make your own housing and beg a couple
sheets of RubyLith form a graphics arts guy, since they are all going
digital they will probably give it to you for free.  The RubyLith is tacky
enough to stick to a piece of glass.

BTW I also had the good fortune to pick up a couple rolls of 3M
lithographers tape, it's like clear cellophane tape but dark red in color,
great for patching pinholes in safelights and a couple layers over the lens
of a small AA flashlight make a great safe flashlight for checking lens
aperture settings, looking around in those dark corners or under the edges
of counters for the dodging tool someone just dropped (it's never happened
to me of course).  Great for sky parties, too, if you're an astronomer,
makes it easier to find the Thermos with the hot chocolate.

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> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
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Nicholas O. Lindan - 01 Dec 2004 15:33 GMT
> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
> a "Mazda"-type bulb

They are(were) still on the shelf at the local photostore.

B&H has the style that is dipped in paint.  The 25W 'Jumbos' work well.

Really nice safelights often go for a song on ebay.

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Stephan Goldstein - 02 Dec 2004 00:01 GMT
Thanks everybody for the info.  Home Depot had the 25W version red glass
(not painted) ones for at a measly $2.49.  I can't believe how bright it is,
I'll definitely run a test soon.  These are made by Philips.

I appreciate the convenience of a full-up real safelight and have two 5x7 units
hanging over my processing area.  My darkroom is a bit, um, peculiar, as it
needs to fit into an existing bathroom.  The enlarger is on a purpose-built
table above the toilet (no longer accessible unless you're under 3 years old).
I'm not allowed to make holes, and there's no power other than a wall light
that accepts a standard bulb.  Hence my requirement, now seemingly met.

BTW, I also found the 15W version online at Porter's, $7 or so for a pack of
two.  But the minimum shipping was $8 :(

Steve
Dan Quinn - 03 Dec 2004 09:54 GMT
> My darkroom is a bit, um, peculiar, as it
> needs to fit into an existing bathroom.

 My bathroom darkroom got a lot bigger when I switched to
one tray processing. Some who use one tray processing save
the chemistry to cups, beakers, or the like. I meter
chemistry then use it one-shot.                        Dan
Stephan Goldstein - 03 Dec 2004 12:02 GMT
>> My darkroom is a bit, um, peculiar, as it
>> needs to fit into an existing bathroom.
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>the chemistry to cups, beakers, or the like. I meter
>chemistry then use it one-shot.                        Dan

Interesting thought, but I'm not really limited in tray space.  It's more
in the area I have to stick the enlarger.  It's a complicated space overall,
the print washer sits on a metal rack in the shower!  Fortunately I've
got more than one bathroom so one can be sacrificed for essentially
permanent darkroom use.

So when you use print developer one-shot, how much liquid do you
use for an 8x10, assuming an 8x10 tray as well?  And how much fixer?
Dan Quinn - 04 Dec 2004 10:26 GMT
> So when you use print developer one-shot, how much liquid do you
> use for an 8x10, assuming an 8x10 tray as well?
> And how much fixer?

 You'll find eight ounces of solution plenty. Four will do
but pre-wetting will leave the paper flat when the developer is
poured in. Same for fixer.
 I compound all my own chemistry. Homebrew or not it is
necessary to determine the quantity of chemistry needed for the
results expected. For example one quarter ounce of ammonium
thiosulfate concentrate will fix one eight by ten.
 After all nobody wishes to throw good chemistry down the
drain. It does take some testing. BIG plus; always
fresh chemistry.                                             Dan
Michael A. Covington - 02 Dec 2004 03:57 GMT
My experience is that these red-colored light bulbs aren't safe.  An amber
one may actually be safer than a red one, because red glass or paint usually
transmits quite a bit of blue.
Warren Weber - 02 Dec 2004 22:03 GMT
> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
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> To reply by email swap the numeral 0 and the first letter o when
> counting from the left.

This article got me to think if red LED's would work. I use white LED's to
replace those plug in night lights. They are usally good for about 100,000
hours. Warren
Christian Kolinski - 02 Dec 2004 22:49 GMT
>> When I was in high school (1970s) I had a 15W red-colored bulb
>> that fit a standard US light socket that I used as a safelight. It was
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> To reply by email swap the numeral 0 and the first letter o when
>> counting from the left.

> This article got me to think if red LED's would work. I use white LED's to
> replace those plug in night lights. They are usally good for about 100,000
> hours. Warren

They do. I use two sets of 12 LEDs (4500mcd type) in my darkroom (which doesn't
deserve this term when lit with the LED - no problems reading the fine print
on the instruction sheets) without problems (I'm using Foma Varian III paper).

Christian
Michael A. Covington - 02 Dec 2004 23:22 GMT
> This article got me to think if red LED's would work. I use white LED's to
> replace those plug in night lights. They are usally good for about 100,000
> hours. Warren

Red LEDs make excellent safelights, completely free of out-of-band (blue)
emissions.  You can get big automotive tail lights that are made of red LEDs
and run off 12 volts DC.
 
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