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Red filter included with contrast filters...

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Jed Savage - 21 Nov 2004 22:29 GMT
I bought a used darkroom from a friend and it came with VC filters...
along with the filters (in the same box but not cased with the other
filters) there is also a red filter (very RED red)  same construction
but has it's own case - what's this for?
Joe Makowiec - 22 Nov 2004 01:32 GMT
> I bought a used darkroom from a friend and it came with VC filters...
> along with the filters (in the same box but not cased with the other
> filters) there is also a red filter (very RED red)  same construction
> but has it's own case - what's this for?

Focusing on the paper.

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Claudio Bonavolta - 22 Nov 2004 01:34 GMT
> > I bought a used darkroom from a friend and it came with VC filters...
> > along with the filters (in the same box but not cased with the other
> > filters) there is also a red filter (very RED red)  same construction
> > but has it's own case - what's this for?
>
> Focusing on the paper.

and positioning the paper when not using an easel.

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John McGraw - 22 Nov 2004 20:59 GMT
> > > I bought a used darkroom from a friend and it came with VC filters...
> > > along with the filters (in the same box but not cased with the other
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> and positioning the paper when not using an easel.

and positioning a vignette or burning card, or dodging tool.
Jim Phelps - 22 Nov 2004 16:51 GMT
>I bought a used darkroom from a friend and it came with VC filters...
> along with the filters (in the same box but not cased with the other
> filters) there is also a red filter (very RED red)  same construction
> but has it's own case - what's this for?

Both the other answers are correct, - sort of.  Don't try to focus with the
filter in place as the image will be to dark and your eyes are not suited to
focusing with a red image.  The purpose was to allow you to project the
image on the easel with your B&W paper in place and finalize the composition
on the paper and then flip it out to begin your exposure, and then back in
(or turn the lamp off) to end the exposure.  In over 27 years of darkroom
experience, I think I've used it twice, and that was when I was working
difficult negatives and I flipped it in and out to make sure I was
positioning my mask properly.  However, just like a safelight, you should
test it (if you're going to use it) with the paper of your choice to assure
it won't cause fogging.

Jim
Jed Savage - 22 Nov 2004 20:47 GMT
I thought B&W VC paper was sensitive to red light - and that's why
there are the amber filters for safe lights.  Must be just a certain
spectrum of red?
Claudio Bonavolta - 22 Nov 2004 20:52 GMT
> I thought B&W VC paper was sensitive to red light - and that's why
> there are the amber filters for safe lights.  Must be just a certain
> spectrum of red?

It can look red but still emit in the sensitive part of the spectrum for your paper.
Like presumed inactinic lights, it's a good habit to check it from time to time.

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Mike King - 22 Nov 2004 21:54 GMT
VC paper is sensitive to blue and green light, insensitive to red.
Panchromatic papers like Panalure and all color paper are sensitive to red
green and blue light but there is a gap in sensitivity where the dark amber
"safelight" resides.  Probably more correct to say less "un"-safe rather
than truly safe.

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> I thought B&W VC paper was sensitive to red light - and that's why
> there are the amber filters for safe lights.  Must be just a certain
> spectrum of red?
Jim Phelps - 23 Nov 2004 07:45 GMT
>I thought B&W VC paper was sensitive to red light - and that's why
> there are the amber filters for safe lights.  Must be just a certain
> spectrum of red?

Mike (Darkroom Mike) already explained the sensitivity issue.  However, like
I said my the last sentence in the above post, you should always test, just
like a safelight...
 
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